ratfolk from the lower class 'animal quarter' of a human / elf / dwarf ruled city. Titain Mauler?


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While smaller, under privileged, and without voting rights above ground, this rat might be more free underground. I'm not sure whether to make a character who's happy and free, pursuing treasure and trade--or a dark crusader with a chip on his shoulder.

I'm not that fancy of a player, but I do like multi-classing. What might I build? I'd like a martial type character.

I like the little bit of rage and flavor that Titan Mauler might bring, given the racism this character might've experienced from characters larger than himself. Can I use Jotun Grip to dual wield heavy crossbows as part of my switch-hitting rotation?

Ranger seems to fit the character's underground or urban exploration, and I could use it to get some TWF feats to go with the Jotun grip. Favored enemy human seems too obvious, and I'd like to see him move on, and fight for more abstract versions of justice.

Maybe he has a back story as a monk, where some elder Sensei noticed the fiery rage inside him, and decided to try and teach him a thing or two. Which is all fine and good, but for how long can one deny his inner anger and rage? The sensei archetype seems like it'd get me that wis to AC bonus, and not overlap with his weapon use, or maybe sharp-claw feat.

Grand Lodge

Is this for a campaign set in Golarion?


No, it's a custom, more industrial age sort of setting, with guns feely available as simple weapons, and magic items at 1/10th the costs, and other weird stuff.

But it might be cool to apply the concept to PFS or wherever, so if you've got Golarion-specific advice, I'll take it.

Grand Lodge

Urban Barbarian works thematically, and mechanically.

Dex build is the better option.

Are you looking for a melee, or ranged build?


party will probably want melee.


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-A Titan Mauler/Shadowdancer might be fun. You'd spring attack out, then scurry-dance back into the shadows. (Since you'll be hiding in plain sight, it won't matter so much that your movement speed is 20, although I'd probably pick up boots of striding & springing when possible.) Seems pretty ratty to me.

I figure you'd probably just use the nicest big-die magic weapon you came across, since you can use small weapons and also light or one-handed medium weapons. (This makes you much less dependent on the DM allowing you to find or commission the weapons you want, normally necessary for small martials.)

I'd probably take six levels of barbarian (for a net penalty of -1 for using oversized weapons) before dipping into shadowdancer (HiPS, Evasion, +30' to your darkvision, and Uncanny Dodge) for two levels. Then you can decide whether you want the third level for a Shadow companion and a rogue talent (I like fast stealth), or back to barbarian. Or even fighter, if you want the feats. (Somehow I usually end up wanting them.)

You won't do TONS of DPR, but you'll be hitting pretty reliably (almost full base attack, small, rage, stealth), you'll be pretty resilient (evasion will help against AoEs, and stealth should help you avoid being specifically targeted), you can sneak anywhere, and you'll have lots of skill points.

Grand Lodge

An Urban Barbarian Dervish Dance, or Natural Attack build would be strong.

Both would be thematically fitting, and fun.

Titan Mauler just does not work mechanically, or thematically.

Using an Agile weapon would work as well with the Urban Barbarian.


threemilechild wrote:
-A Titan Mauler/Shadowdancer might be fun. You'd spring attack out, then scurry-dance back into the shadows. (Since you'll be hiding in plain sight, it won't matter so much that your movement speed is 20, although I'd probably pick up boots of striding & springing when possible.) Seems pretty ratty to me.

i just come acroos this post, and just read your post... i never thought in that... thanks! that's an amazing idea, i totally second it


Sanjiv wrote:
I like the little bit of rage and flavor that Titan Mauler might bring, given the racism this character might've experienced from characters larger than himself. Can I use Jotun Grip to dual wield heavy crossbows as part of my switch-hitting rotation?

yeah, sorry, but you can't, in the errata specify that jotun grip only works with melee weapons

in the case of multiclassing with monk, well, yuo might have a few troubles with the alignment restriction that will not allows you to take the levels of monk, but, there is the martial artist archetype of the monk that has not restrictions at all, you lost the ki pool, but you win another bunch of abilities, you should check it

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