So, My gunslinger replayed a scenario for no credit. Now my bullets cost 5gp and I used alot....
This is a case of conflicting view, on GM says I take the penalties(Including gold spent) but no credit, but one says "Nope, it is as if you never played that scenario" Which is it
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The first GM is correct. You receive a chronicle sheet with 0xp, 0 Prestige, 0gp earned. You must record all purchases and items sold or expended. You must also clear any conditions that would have to be cleared in a "normal" scenario, or the character will be reported as dead. It's all of the risk for none of the reward.
Edit: This is found on page 20 of the Guide to Organized Play.
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When I first started PFS the tactic I saw happening at tables would be to have a level 6-7ish character join up with some level 1-2ish characters to play the Tier 3-4 of a 1-7 scenario. There was no risk for the high level character, and the newbies got better gold than if they'd played on their own.
I believe the "all of the penalties, none of the rewards" idea was put in place to help dissuade players from doing this. Imagine if you could utilize your consumables without fear of losing them.
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I ran a table where exactly that happened, Nefreet. Except the end result was (1) several characters nearly died, (2) failure of the secondary mission, and (3) a greatly reduced overall gp total. This combined to create many hurt feelings at the table. Some of the hard feelings were directed at the player, most were directed at me for allowing him to play.
The lesson that I learned for myself is to only allow players to play again for no credit if (1) they are using a Pregen, and (2) the Pregen level does not change the Subtier of the scenario. Even under those two conditions, I probably still wouldn't allow it unless it meant that one or more players would not play that night otherwise.
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It would depend really if you know player. I could for example be completely fine with certain players in our local community to replay a certain scenario for fun, but some other players or new players which I am not familiar with wouldn't receive this privilege. It's all about who you trust in the end, and some people deserved it.
Adam
It was I was stuck there for a few hours because my ride was GMing and I didnt have a Lvl 6 or 13 for the other tables. So I had to replay.
So no rewards but all penalties. That is by fathe the STUPIDEST thing I ever heard.
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So, My gunslinger replayed a scenario for no credit. Now my bullets cost 5gp and I used alot....
This is a case of conflicting view, on GM says I take the penalties(Including gold spent) but no credit, but one says "Nope, it is as if you never played that scenario" Which is it
Dude, its like what, 100 gold for bullets tops? My druids burned more than that on werewolf chow, bird food and craft services for a bullette.
If you are playing for no credit and just to kill time, why didn't you use a level 7 pregen instead of your own character?
All the other tables where maxed, and they needed one more to make the table legal.
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If you are playing for no credit and just to kill time, why didn't you use a level 7 pregen instead of your own character?All the other tables where maxed, and they needed one more to make the table legal.
Why didn't you use a level 7 pregen, instead of your own character, if you knew there was no reward and you didn't want to spend any resources from your character. A level 7 pregen still allows you to make the table legal.
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If you are playing to just kill time/make a table legal, use a pregen.
If you are playing because you wish to broaden your character's horizons by interacting with other people (you want to roleplay as your character), then be prepared to expend resources as a cost for the extra enjoyment that comes with more adventuring.
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Normally, replay is supposed to be pretty rare.
I on one hand think a pregen is a good idea, I also dislike the idea of players going crazy or disengaging from the party because it's a pregen.
I do however dislike turning people away from games or having not enough more than any possible negative side effect of replay.
I am going to provide this example not to discredit your complaint of gold expenditure, as it is your feelings on the matter, but to show you the norm at the spot I used to play it before moving.
Replay is rare but when it happens, people usually play their character again or with a different legal character but still for no gain. This is because they feel it is more fun for them and the party to bring a PC than a pregen. There is def a risk though and always at least a small loss of gold.
I can only remember replaying once to make a table legal. I used my character and he was obliterated by a GMs misinterpretation of how the rules worked. ( Three flame oracle flame strikes before any of us could act by one npc.)
I did not regret bringing my character. Paid my gold and prestige to be ressed and moved on. That is an extreme example of course and also a pretty good example of why using a pregen can be a good idea too.
Thankfully his familiar, sacred, was impervious to fire as imps are. On a funny note the players sheepishly asked if they could use my wizards gear. I said of course and they had fun time unwinding from the brutal encounter by spell crafting the meta rods and wands.