Alchemist Extracts - How do they work?


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Shadow Lodge

I must admit, I've had terrible difficulty figuring out just how the Extracts of an Alchemist work, and I have a few questions about them that hopefully someone can help me answer.

1. What sort of action is it to retrieve an Extract? If the spell takes a standard action to 'cast,' does the Alchemist pull out the Extract and drink it as a standard action, or does he need to spend a move action to retrieve it before drinking?
2. Does consuming an Extract provoke an attack of opportunity? Can he "drink defensively" with a concentration check?
3. Can someone attack the extract as he's drinking it, just like one would be able to aim an attack of opportunity at a potion flask someone is consuming?

I've run it mostly handwaving away anything that makes the Extracts anything than flavorful (literally) spells, treating the Alchemist essentially as a spellcaster for most respects. But is this correct?


1. Yes, it's much like casting a spell

Here's a FAQ and a Link and quote from Ogre's great guide:
"Alchemist: What kind of action is it to use an extract, mutagen, or throw a bomb?
It is a standard action to use an extract, mutagen, or throw a bomb. This action includes retrieving the necessary materials from the alchemist's supplies, in the same manner as retrieving a material component is included in the act of spellcasting."

http://pathfinder.ogrehut.com/2010/07/alchemist-guide-extracts/
"Using Extracts
Using an extract is just like using a potion except it is a free action to retrieve an extract. This means it’s a bit different from normal spellcasting.
Mainly, when drinking an extract the alchemist:
• Can’t ‘cast’ defensively to avoid an attack of opportunity.
• Can never apply metamagic feats or rods to extracts
• Never needs a concentration check to ‘cast’ including: when deafened, while you are burning, or taking on going damage, grappled (only extracts in hand), ‘distracted’
• Can drink extracts even if they would be incapable of preparing them due to ability damage or other impairing effect (even if drained to an 8 INT you can quaff any of your extracts). "


As far as extracts while grappled go, you can retrieve and drink a potion while grappled, so there's no reason to think you can't do the same with an extract, i.e. unlike spells, which are limited to material components in hand, you do not have to have an extract in hand to drink it while grappled.

Shadow Lodge

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Well, if Extracts are "just like potions," would you rule that the Accelerated Drinker feat would allow one to be drunk as a move action? I'm allowing one of my players to do so (since I know he won't abuse the privilege), but I'm fairly certain this is just me being generous and bending the rules to let the player true strike a bomb now and then in one round.


The Morphling wrote:
Well, if Extracts are "just like potions," would you rule that the Accelerated Drinker feat would allow one to be drunk as a move action? I'm allowing one of my players to do so (since I know he won't abuse the privilege), but I'm fairly certain this is just me being generous and bending the rules to let the player true strike a bomb now and then in one round.

There's already an FAQ on that - and the answer was no.

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