Raising fey from the dead


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recently a player in my group wanted to play a fey character and i brought up a concern i remember seeing somewhere that fey had no souls there for i didn't think they could be brought back from the dead via spells like raise dead was i wrong?


Fey can be raised just fine. They have no text like outsiders saying they can't be raised.


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The 1st Edition Deities & Demigods had a section describing how elves do not have souls, but instead have spirits, and this delineation caused them to be immune to resurrection (not sure if it prevented them from using raise dead).

The notion was not repeated in subsequent editions, as far as I can remember. Definitely gone by 3rd Edition.


In Golarion, I think Fey cannot be resurrected. However, that may be a setting specific rule, and in the bestiary and CRB, there is no indication that raise dead cannot be used on Fey, as their is for undead, constructs, and outsiders that lack the 'native' subtype.


Strike what I said earlier. I dug my old books out, and in 1st Ed you could not raise elves, but you could resurrect them.

Still not finding anything about fey not being raisable in Golarion. But then, I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the setting. Could you cite your sourcebook?


Scavion has the right idea on this. Nothing prevents you in the description in the Fey type that you can't raise them from the dead, either by animate dead or resurrection.

You might be remembering that in Golarion that Fey are from the first world and that is another plane of existence. Making you confused as normally creatures from other planes Outsiders cannot be raised from the dead.


It mentions in fey revisited that fey have no souls that's why i was asking if it would work or not.

Grand Lodge

If in Golarion, then Fey lack souls. Wish is needed to bring them back.

Reincarnate works too.

The first Gnomes on the material plane had no souls.


Thanks for the help with figuring this out guys.

Silver Crusade

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Clarification: Fey born on Golarion do have souls. It's the fey born in the First World that lack them. It's why we've had fey ghosts and fey showing up in the afterlife planes.

The introduction to Fey Revisited oversimplified the matter. The articles on the First World and the origins of the gnomes go into the exact details.

Posting in a hurry, can give more details tomorrow

Silver Crusade

A bit late, but:

Whether fey have souls are not is dependant on whether they were born on the First World(they have none, but they do have spirits that function differently) or pretty much anywhere else(they have souls like other living beings). This can be seen in the first generation fo gnomes to come from the First World and the generation after. This is due to the First World's status as a sort of prototype reality.

This is spelled out in the First World article featured in Kingmaker, but also in the various exceptions to the norm that come up with fey specifically from the First World:

Various AP spoilers:
Certain fey in Kingmaker(most notably Nyrissa), Spring-Heeled Jack from Carrion Crown, and the Dawn Heralds from Reign of Winter are each specifically pointed out as not having conventional souls.

Meanwhile, most other fey are expected to function the same as other ensouled beings(the aforementioned fey ghost from Rise of the Runelords for example).

So dead fey from the Prime Material can be raised just like anyone else. Fey from the First World are going to be trickier, requiring either greater magic or a full blown fairy tale-like quest.

Kingmaker:
Like the (awesome) one needed to restore Nyrissa after the campaign.

IIRC, the other big distinction this leads to is that First World fey are even more alien than fey from elsewhere.


Gnomes and fey are magical aliens, elves are just flat-out aliens, . . . I love Golarion. : )

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