Wand rules question..


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So for someone to use a wand with a UMD check the spell must be on the persons spell list.

So if your clerics domain adds a spell like shield spell to the clerics list they could use a shield spell wand eithout a UMD check, correct?

Sczarni

If the spell is on your class list you can zap a wand of it without needing to UMD it.

This applies to spells that have been added to your class list through other means, such as an Oracle's bonus spells or a Cleric's domain spells.

Even if you can't cast the spell yet, like a 1st level Cleric using a wand of a 2nd level spell, you still needn't UMD a wand of it.


I don't know if I would rule it like that. Was there a FAQ that said that is the case?

Spell Trigger wrote:


Spell Trigger: Spell trigger activation is similar to spell completion, but it's even simpler. No gestures or spell finishing is needed, just a special knowledge of spellcasting that an appropriate character would know, and a single word that must be spoken. Spell trigger items can be used by anyone whose class can cast the corresponding spell. This is the case even for a character who can't actually cast spells, such as a 3rd-level paladin. The user must still determine what spell is stored in the item before she can activate it. Activating a spell trigger item is a standard action and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

The spell isn't on the Cleric's Spell list, therefore I'd have to say nay. To me it would have to be something that every Cleric can cast.


So Robert, a fire domain cleric knows how to cast burning hands, because he can prepare it and cast it. But he doesn't really KNOW how to cast burning hands, because Joe the healing domain cleric can't?


Designer says: yes.

Sczarni

Matthew Downie wrote:
Designer says: yes.

This.

I used to be of the mindset that you couldn't, but have since come around into the fold.

All you need do is look at Poog and his wand of Fireball.

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