Advice on Fighter / Barbarian.


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Hello all, I am building a spartan like character for PFS and need some advice on high level feats. The current plan is to go Phalanx 5/Superstitious 6, taking reckless abandon, superstitious, and witch hunter as my rage powers.

The goal of this character is to be a front line reach fighter.

The feats I have so far are
1. Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Furious Focus
2. Weapon Focus(Bill)
3.Cleave
5.Cleaving finish (I know its not optimal, but I like the feat)
6.Weapon Specialization(Bill)
7. ??
9. ??
11. ??

I am asking for advice for the last three feats because I want to be able to so something besides poke things with a polearm. I want to bring some utility to the table if possible. Some ideas I have had are vital strike -> improved vital strike, stand still, deadly finish, or some bull rush feats.

However, all of these feel a bit underwhelming, especially for high level feats. I want something that will give my character some interesting stuff to do at high level play.


Just go with 4 lvls of Phalanx Fighter, the 5th lvl ability is no big deal. For the Spartan feel I think that the most standard Invulnerable rager / Urban Barbarian is a better suit.

Go Half-Orc, sacred tattoo and shaman's apprentice alt racial traits.

Phalanx fighter 4 / Inv. Rager Urban Barb 8

Traits: Defender of the Society, Threatening Defender

1 F Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Endurance
2 F Cleave
3 F Diehard
4 F Weapon Focus (Bill), retrain Cleave with Combat Expertise
5 Barb Stalwart
6 Barb RP: Superstition
7 Barb Extra RP: Reckless Abandon
8 Barb RP: Witch Hunter
9 Barb Weapon Specialization (Bill)
10 Barb RP: Extra DR
11 Barb Improved Stalwart
12 Barb RP: Extra DR

This build should give the feeling of a Spartan with the massive DR you will have, as well your very strong saves (take favored class bonus for human barbarians, I beleive you can do that as half-orc).

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If you want to do "interesting things", the best that a polearm master can do is trip... but that gets difficult at high level play when things start becoming incorporeal and/or flying.

Urban Barbarian is very non-Spartan feeling IMHO; THIS IS SPARTA!

With that said, the character would probably be better / fit your style more if you stop Fighter at 3; the 8th level rage powers are quite good. But they will still only be able to attack for some heavy damage.

Sadly you're going to be pretty much "strictly better" wearing armor as well; that's sadly the nature of the game. If you want to do otherwise the Stalwart (listed above) does work nicely... but there's no mechanical advantage in going armorless (spartanlike) while wielding a shield.


Spartan soldiers above all where a disciplined military force. Controlled rage is the only viable match, no soldier goes on a slaying rampage when their priority is to protect the man standing next to them. Also, the Spartan infantry wore heavy armor, their full militant equipment was over 20 kilos. Full-plate is a bit unrealistic as it is a medieval invention, but certainly the nude-breasted battle-frenzied berserkers is just and only a Hollywood product.

A picture of a Spartan hoplite can be seen here.

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XMorsX wrote:

Just go with 4 lvls of Phalanx Fighter, the 5th lvl ability is no big deal. For the Spartan feel I think that the most standard Invulnerable rager / Urban Barbarian is a better suit.

Go Half-Orc, sacred tattoo and shaman's apprentice alt racial traits.

Phalanx fighter 4 / Inv. Rager Urban Barb 8

Traits: Defender of the Society, Threatening Defender

1 F Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Endurance
2 F Cleave
3 F Diehard
4 F Weapon Focus (Bill), retrain Cleave with Combat Expertise
5 Barb Stalwart
6 Barb RP: Superstition
7 Barb Extra RP: Reckless Abandon
8 Barb RP: Witch Hunter
9 Barb Weapon Specialization (Bill)
10 Barb RP: Extra DR
11 Barb Improved Stalwart
12 Barb RP: Extra DR

This build should give the feeling of a Spartan with the massive DR you will have, as well your very strong saves (take favored class bonus for human barbarians, I believe you can do that as half-orc).

So here is the really funny thing. That build is almost word for word my alternate build for this character. I was just worried that will all the specialization into defense, my offense would suffer since my to hit at level 8 would be at a -6 to get the stalwart bonuses, which I did not like.

EDIT: Also, how are you taking extra DR with only 6 levels of barbarian?

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