Witch with Bonded Deck


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So the DM just gave me permission to have a Harrow Deck as my bonded item for a Half-Elf Bonded Witch.

I'm curious as to what spells this should contain.

He said throw something together and he'll approve or send me back to the drawing board.

Advice?


Well... definitely harrowing

Then its about what theme a deck of cards should follow. I would say that patterns, diviniation and any random effect or luck based spell should be suitable.

I like prismatic spray as a later spell
Hypnotic pattern is a good fit
Rainbow pattern
Scintillating pattern
Borrow fortune
Debilitating portent
Jolting portent
Prediction of failure
Confusion
Divination
Vision
False vision
Any locate spell
Curse and major curse
True seeing
Find the path
Cloak of dreams
Moment of presience
Foresight

All of those feel like they could fit to me


Bonded Item (Sp): At 1st level, a bonded witch gains a bonded item instead of a familiar. This bonded item is similar to a wizard's arcane bond bonded item, and follows all the rules of such an item with the following exceptions... blah blah blah

Harrow Deck: 2nd—Detect Chaos/Evil/Good/Law; 4th—Hypnotic pattern; 6th—Borrow fortune; 8th—Rainbow pattern; 10th—False vision; 12th—True seeing; 14th—prismatic spray; 16th—Prediction of failure; 18th—Foresight.

4th level spell is pretty 'meh'
3rd level should be Harrowing, but the casting time didn't seem to fit right...
6th level seems like Find the Path would fit better theme wise, but what do you think
7th level, I'm not a fan at all right now...
9th level, tolerable... but underwhelming.


I'd suggest either divination spells or spells with the [curse] descriptor as being appropriate for a witch with a bonded harrow deck.

Oh, and you should definitely use Harrowing as the 3rd level spell. Yes, it takes 10 minutes to cast, but it's a Harrow Deck!

If you go to the pathfinder srd they have an advanced spell search function: Advanced Spell Search

You can perform two searches: one with divination spells selected (and then sort by Lvl*/Name), then another with the [curse] descriptor.

Cheers!

Shadow Lodge

Love this concept. Awesome idea!


Quite interesting. Very nice idea.


I decide to look into the divination spells, it's kind of sad there's only ONE level 9 spell. (IE foresight)


How about this list:
2nd: Ill Omen
4th: Hypnotic Pattern
6th: Harrowing
8th: Rainbow Pattern
10th: Major Curse
12th: Find the Path
14th: Vision
16th: Prediction of Failure
18th: Weird


just an FYI, i am working on(just about done with actually) a gypsy fortune teller witch archetype on behalf of forest guardian press as a stretch goal for the the new ultimate witch and warlock kickstarter coming out. stay tuned, as it has options for bonding to a deck of cards or crystal ball.


Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
just an FYI, i am working on(just about done with actually) a gypsy fortune teller witch archetype on behalf of forest guardian press as a stretch goal for the the new ultimate witch and warlock kickstarter coming out. stay tuned, as it has options for bonding to a deck of cards or crystal ball.

My whole concept IS gypsy fortune teller! Ranks in perform dance to get to the Harrower PRC. I'd be very interested in seeing your end product... but about how long until we will be view it?


Lord_Malkov wrote:


How about this list:
2nd: Ill Omen
4th: Hypnotic Pattern
6th: Harrowing
8th: Rainbow Pattern
10th: Major Curse
12th: Find the Path
14th: Vision
16th: Prediction of Failure
18th: Weird

I like this, it looks good... but...

if you look at the actual list of half-elf bonded items...

Bonded Witch wrote:

Amulet: 2nd—stone fist; 4th—bear's endurance; 6th—burst of speed; 8th—mnemonic enhancer; 10th—stoneskin; 12th—monstrous physique IV; 14th—firebrand; 16th—iron body; 18th—overwhelming presence.

Ring: 2nd—shield; 4th—ablative barrier; 6th—protection from energy; 8th—nondetection; 10th—life bubble; 12th—resinous skin; 14th—antimagic field; 16th—deflection; 18th—spell immunity.

Staff: 2nd—shillelagh; 4th—warp wood; 6th—plant growth; 8th—arboreal hammer; 10th—passwall; 12th—move earth; 14th—changestaff; 16th—control plants; 18th—wooden phalanx.

Wand: 2nd—magic missile; 4th—knock; 6th—fireball; 8th—restoration; 10th—maximized scorching ray; 12th—bull's strength (mass); 14th—greater restoration; 16th—empowered and maximized fireball; 18th—empowered and maximized fire shield.

Weapon: 2nd—warding weapon; 4th—versatile weapon; 6th—greater magic weapon; 8th—telekinetic charge; 10th—energy siege shot; 12th—blade barrier; 14th—arcane cannon; 16th—earthquake; 18th—ride the lightning.

MOST of these spells are NOT on the witches spell list. Your list looks good, but most of those ARE on their spell list.

Back to the drawing board?

P.S. I also very much don't like the rainbow pattern spell. I think its a terrible fit for the theme, but am always open to balance. So if you can convince me otherwise...


La'Vantis Tuen wrote:
Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
just an FYI, i am working on(just about done with actually) a gypsy fortune teller witch archetype on behalf of forest guardian press as a stretch goal for the the new ultimate witch and warlock kickstarter coming out. stay tuned, as it has options for bonding to a deck of cards or crystal ball.
My whole concept IS gypsy fortune teller! Ranks in perform dance to get to the Harrower PRC. I'd be very interested in seeing your end product... but about how long until we will be view it?

lol you are going to have to wait for ultimate witch and warlock, unless that stretch goal isn't reached, then...well I do love surprises.


Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
La'Vantis Tuen wrote:
Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
just an FYI, i am working on(just about done with actually) a gypsy fortune teller witch archetype on behalf of forest guardian press as a stretch goal for the the new ultimate witch and warlock kickstarter coming out. stay tuned, as it has options for bonding to a deck of cards or crystal ball.
My whole concept IS gypsy fortune teller! Ranks in perform dance to get to the Harrower PRC. I'd be very interested in seeing your end product... but about how long until we will be view it?
lol you are going to have to wait for ultimate witch and warlock, unless that stretch goal isn't reached, then...well I do love surprises.

could you link the kickstarter?


La'Vantis Tuen wrote:
Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
La'Vantis Tuen wrote:
Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster wrote:
just an FYI, i am working on(just about done with actually) a gypsy fortune teller witch archetype on behalf of forest guardian press as a stretch goal for the the new ultimate witch and warlock kickstarter coming out. stay tuned, as it has options for bonding to a deck of cards or crystal ball.
My whole concept IS gypsy fortune teller! Ranks in perform dance to get to the Harrower PRC. I'd be very interested in seeing your end product... but about how long until we will be view it?
lol you are going to have to wait for ultimate witch and warlock, unless that stretch goal isn't reached, then...well I do love surprises.
could you link the kickstarter?

unfortunately it has not come about yet link

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