Question about assisted Magic Item creation feats


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Scarab Sages

From what I have read, if a wizard has a craft wands feat, as long as he has a cleric assisting he can create a wand of cure light wounds, even though he does not personally have the spell. I assume this same principle would apply to all other magic item creation feats.

However, it doesn't seem to make sense that scribe scroll could be used for anything other than spells on the crafter's spell list. Are there different rules for this, or can a wizard (for instance) scribe a druid scroll if his friend the druid assists him?

*Edit* Meant for this to go in the Rules Forum...


Yes, you can make any magical item of a spell that someone else knows and casts for you as you make the item. Sometimes you can ignore the spell entirely for a +5 to the crafting DC, but this doesn't apply to items like wands and staffs and scrolls.

The RAW does not indicated an exception for scrolls so the general rule applies - you can scribe a scroll of a spell that someone else knows and prepares.

How?

You have the feat (a requirement you cannot skip), so you know how to make all the inks, prepare the paper, blend the magic into the scroll as you scribe it, etc. Someone else brings the prepared spell and tells you what to write but it's your knowledge (granted by having the feat) that lets you follow his instructions in such a way as to make the scroll magical.

Your feat, his spell. Just like any other item crafting.

Grand Lodge

DM_Blake wrote:

Yes, you can make any magical item of a spell that someone else knows and casts for you as you make the item. Sometimes you can ignore the spell entirely for a +5 to the crafting DC, but this doesn't apply to items like wands and staffs and scrolls.

The RAW does not indicated an exception for scrolls so the general rule applies - you can scribe a scroll of a spell that someone else knows and prepares.

How?

You have the feat (a requirement you cannot skip), so you know how to make all the inks, prepare the paper, blend the magic into the scroll as you scribe it, etc. Someone else brings the prepared spell and tells you what to write but it's your knowledge (granted by having the feat) that lets you follow his instructions in such a way as to make the scroll magical.

Your feat, his spell. Just like any other item crafting.

Cooperative casting can be used to supply anything you don't have to know your self. However scrolls and wands do require personal knowledge of the spell, so a cooperative caster is of no help in this.

You can use a cleric to help you make a wondrous item that uses cure light wounds as the basis for the magic. However, said cleric can't help you make a wand of cure light wounds.


LazarX wrote:

Cooperative casting can be used to supply anything you don't have to know your self. However scrolls and wands do require personal knowledge of the spell, so a cooperative caster is of no help in this.

You can use a cleric to help you make a wondrous item that uses cure light wounds as the basis for the magic. However, said cleric can't help you make a wand of cure light wounds.

Would UMD of a Wand of Cure Light work?

/cevah

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