Bloodline mutation: Blood Intensity


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Hi there paizo forum. I was looking into blood intensity.

Blood Intensity:

Whenever you cast a bloodrager or sorcerer spell that deals damage, you can increase its maximum number of damage dice by an amount equal to your Strength or Charisma modifier, whichever is higher. This otherwise functions as —and does not stack with—the Intensified Spell feat. You can use this ability once per day at 3rd level and one additional time per day for every 4 caster levels you have beyond 3rd, up to five times per day at 19th level.

This ability replaces the sorcerer’s 3rd-level bloodline power or the bloodrager’s 8th-level bloodline power.

Bloodline Mutations:
Although heirs to similar arcane bloodlines may share commonalities, the unique circumstances in which a bloodline enters a bloodrager or sorcerer’s lineage can result in the manifestation of particularly strange or unusual bloodline powers known as mutations. Whenever a bloodrager or a sorcerer gains a new bloodline power, she can swap her bloodline power for a bloodline mutation whose prerequisites she meets. Once this choice is made, it cannot be changed, and a bloodrager or sorcerer cannot swap a bloodline power that she has altered or replaced with an archetype for a bloodline mutation. A bloodrager need not be in a bloodrage to use her bloodline mutation powers. Alternatively, a bloodrager or sorcerer can select a bloodline mutation in place of a bloodline bonus feat, provided her class level is at least equal to the level of the bloodline ability the mutation normally replaces.

Now I am left with a few questions about the ability:
1. According to the text it can increase maximum number of damage dice by str/cha bonus amount and otherwise works as intensify spell. Does that mean it raises spell lvl like intensify? Why or why not? I would appreciate if we try to stay RAW but a RAI post is also okay. Sources would be wonderful.
2. Can I safely assume that the text in bloodline mutations that states that you can get them for feats or bloodline arcanas stand even though the individual bloodline mutation texts only mention trading them for bloodline arcanas?


There’s nothing in this text that indicates it raises spell level. So, it doesn’t.

For (2), yes.


1) This is an ability. It says what it does, it does what it says. It is an ability you activate when casting a spell, nothing about altering the way the spells is cast or being treated as a metamagic other thank working like Intensify spell. If this cost a higher level slot it would say so. The cost is a limited number of activation per day.

The main reason for referencing Intensify spell is to make sure you understand the level cap for damage dice is being raised, not just that you get to add your CHA mod dice of damage.

2) yes.


Agreed with the above for 1).

2) is a bit problematic, did you make a typo and say "Bloodline Arcanas" when you meant "Bloodline Powers"? As your question is currently written I would have to disagree with the above responses and say the answer is no - a Bloodline Arcana is a separate feature of a Bloodline (possessed by Sorcerer Bloodlines but not Bloodrager Bloodlines) that is not mentioned in either the general Bloodline Mutations rules you have presented or the specific Blood Intensity rules. You can not trade a Bloodline Arcana for a Mutation. You can trade either a Bloodline Power or Bloodline Feat, as per the text.


jbadams wrote:

Agreed with the above for 1).

2) is a bit problematic, did you make a typo and say "Bloodline Arcanas" when you meant "Bloodline Powers"? As your question is currently written I would have to disagree with the above responses and say the answer is no - a Bloodline Arcana is a separate feature of a Bloodline (possessed by Sorcerer Bloodlines but not Bloodrager Bloodlines) that is not mentioned in either the general Bloodline Mutations rules you have presented or the specific Blood Intensity rules. You can not trade a Bloodline Arcana for a Mutation. You can trade either a Bloodline Power or Bloodline Feat, as per the text.

My question was unclear, and I apologize for the confusion. What I was trying to ask is this: The general text of bloodline mutations mentions that I can "purchase" the individual mutations for the bloodline powers they mention OR a bloodline feat of an appropriate level. The individual mutations does not mention being "purchasable" for bloodline feats though. Does that mean the general text for bloodline mutation was incorrect or not?


I believe you can also swap for the Bloodline Feats as per the general rules for Bloodline Mutations; nothing in the more specific descriptions of each individual mutation overrides that, and so it still applies. :)

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