Eldritch Knight Dreamspeaker early entry

[Captain K.]

Does this work?

Elvish Alternate Racial Trait of Dreamspeaker gives Dream as an SLA (5th level Arcane) which would allow for early Eldritch Knight entry.

It needs Cha 15, but I suppose you could go for Drow or Half-Elf and boost Cha with a Sorcerer chassis instead of Wizard.

Any good?

[LuniasM]

The problem with this method of entry is that Dream is a 5th-level spell, and the EK entry states that you need to be able to cast 3rd-level spells. Since Dream is not a 3rd-level spell, it doesn't count towards the entry requirements.

[gustavo iglesias]

Aasimar is easier imho

[LuniasM]

gustavo iglesias wrote:

Aasimar is easier imho

Well, yes, if you have access to that race. Most GMs I know ban it because it's "broken". Of course, any race with 3rd-level Arcane SLAs can do this, though it's admittedly hard to get one. Looking through the list, I do believe that only Aasimar, Svirfneblin, Sylph, and Tieflings can get a 3rd-level arcane SLA.

[ZanThrax]

If you really want to enter EK early, just have your Wizard be a Scryer. Boom. 3rd level Arcane SLA taken care of, you can be whatever race you want (or your DM will allow).