When targeting a single creature with greater dispel magic, do I make a single dispel check and compare it to all the ongoing spells my level allows? Or do I make multiple caster level checks, one for each ongoing spell.
When targeting a single creature with greater dispel magic, do I make a single dispel check and compare it to all the ongoing spells my level allows? Or do I make multiple caster level checks, one for each ongoing spell.
One check. One more way dispel was crippled in Pathfinder.
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Dispel Magic
Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell's caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell.
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Dispel Magic, Greater...
Targeted Dispel: This functions as a targeted dispel magic, but it can dispel one spell for every four caster levels you possess, starting with the highest level spells and proceeding to lower level spells.
So I can't force the target to make four saves against my Destructive Dispel feat by defeating four of his ongoing spells then?
I suppose that's just as well. At least I am more likely to take out all four spells then (something my new character is optimized to do), since the target likely has the same caster level for each. Beat one, beat them all.
Thanks for the help.
I just learned something new today. I guess my players will be happy and said.
I just learned something new today. I guess my players will be happy and said.
What was it that you learned? That you only need one caster level check?
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I just learned something new today. I guess my players will be happy and said.What was it that you learned? That you only need one caster level check?
That is what I learned.
So unless the target has buff at different caster level (for example some depending on potions and some from spell cast by him) the dispelling check is already saying me what will be dispelled.
Another thing, I can use higher level but less crucial spells to "protect" lower level spells.
Heroes feast become way more useful.
I have a question. Grt dispel has a limit on the number of spells dispelled.
But the only guide as to which spells are dispelled first is their caster level,
Which if you are entirely self buffed will be the same for all spells, barring school specific caster level boosts, etc.
Does spell level play any roll here? Or is there some other way to determine priority? Or are all spells of the same caster level chosen randomly as to which is dispelled first?
I have a question. Grt dispel has a limit on the number of spells dispelled.
But the only guide as to which spells are dispelled first is their caster level,
Which if you are entirely self buffed will be the same for all spells, barring school specific caster level boosts, etc.
Does spell level play any roll here? Or is there some other way to determine priority? Or are all spells of the same caster level chosen randomly as to which is dispelled first?
Targeted Dispel: This functions as a targeted dispel magic, but it can dispel one spell for every four caster levels you possess, starting with the highest level spells and proceeding to lower level spells.
Hope that helps.
EDIT: Ninja'd!
I just learned something new today. I guess my players will be happy and said.What was it that you learned? That you only need one caster level check?
Yeah. I was doing it wrong. I read it and see that I was using a lot of rolls that were not needed.
It just sucks if you get a low roll though.
Thanks... That's how I always thought it worked, but when I read the spell just now, my eyes crossed or something when I was trying to read all the overlapping clauses....
Edit: So of same level spells, they are determined randomly, I guess?, even though it doesnt seem to state that.... although I could be overlooking something again....
Thanks... That's how I always thought it worked, but when I read the spell just now, my eyes crossed or something when I was trying to read all the overlapping clauses....
Edit: So of same level spells, they are determined randomly, I guess?, even though it doesnt seem to state that.... although I could be overlooking something again....
For spells of the same level it does not say. I just do them in the order cast or by alphabetical order, but that is not a rule.
Dont forget:
You can also use a targeted dispel to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area (such as a wall of fire). You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way.
I have read that as meaning if I happen to know which buffs are up I can choose what to dispel, which would allow me to dispel a haste instead of a higher level spell if I chose to do so.