Plant Shape - "normal" non-beastiary plants allowed?

[Indus]

Can a player use plant shape spells to become plants that aren't published plant-type creatures? If a character (druid) wants to become a normal bush in someone's garden to spy on them, can they do so? (as opposed to selecting something like assassin's vine, which might draw notice). For that matter, what about a normal tree, like oak or apple or something?

Thanks!

[Perish Song]

By RAW, I don't think so. You can change into a creature of the plant type, but not a normal, everyday plant.

However, as Tree Shape does essentially exactly what your druid wants to do at a much lower spell level, I would probably allow it to happen in a home game.

[Quandary]

The spell specifies: "you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the plant type. "
AFAIK, mundane trees and bushes are not "creatures" with the "plant type". They are treated as objects, even if they are "living" objects.

[Rynjin]

On the bright side, the Assassin Vine looks like a normal plant unless a DC 20 Perception/Survival/Kn. Nature is rolled, and that's before taking into account Perception vs Stealth, unless I'm mistaken.

[MordredofFairy]

plant shape I is a level 5 wizard/sorcerer spell.

tree shape is a level 2 druid spell.

Looking at the relative power level of them, despite normal trees being "objects" i would gladly allow you to turn into a normal tree/bush with the superior spell/it's wild shape equivalent.

You can become a plant with special features and senses and walking around, but you can't become a ordinary stationary plant? Seems off.

also, a treant has an ability called

Animate Trees:

(Sp) A treant can animate any trees within 180 feet at will, controlling up to two trees at a time. It takes 1 full round for a tree to uproot itself, after which it moves at a speed of 10 feet and fights as a treant (although it has only one slam attack and lacks the treant's animation and rock-throwing abilities), gaining the treant's vulnerability to fire. If the treant that animated it terminates the animation, moves out of range, or is incapacitated, the tree immediately takes root wherever it is and returns to its normal state.

So if worse comes to worst and it's about the "creature vs objects" thing, i'd decide to let you be an animated bush/tree with plant shape. You can do a stealth check to hold still.