Closing a Location with Multiple Characters (and the first guy fails)?


Rules Questions and Gameplay Discussion


The Location: Sandpoint Cathedral

Issue: Ezren defeats a henchman and wants to immediately close the location. However, he does not have a blessing or Father Zantus in his hand.

Seelah is at this same location. Can she banish a blessing to close this location while it's still Ezren's turn.

Or, is the opportunity to close the location lost?


The second post on this in 24 hours :-

So I will repeat my answer from the other post.

The rules on closing a location refer to you or yours so the character whose turn it is has to meet the conditions for closing.
Whatever the condition is be it a check or as in this case banish a card unless it says you must then there is no reason why other characters cannot assist as per the norm al rules.

Page 13

Closing a Location
You may earn the opportunity to close a location in a number of ways....... When you have the opportunity and want to close a location, do whatever the location’s “When Closing” section says

The closing conditions imply you but omit the word e.g. They just say succeed at a x check.

Normal Rules would apply e.g. Other character can aid in the check. Some state Banish a card from your hand and as Sandpoint Cathederal does not state your hand I would say no such restriction applies.

Page 10

Playing Cards

Playing a card means activating a card’s power by revealing, displaying, discarding, recharging, burying, or banishing the card. .......
If a card in your hand does not specify when it can be played, you can generally play it at any time, with the exception that during each step of attempting a check, you may only perform specific actions.....

and The Side box on Page 13
STRATEGY: SHOULD YOU BE SELFISH?

In short yes another character can banish the required cards to close Sandpoint Cathederal. They could not at the Town Square or the General Store as their When Closing states banish a card from your hand.

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"Banish a card" has the implied subject "you." Only the person who is actually attempting to close the location—Ezren in the example—can do that.

If there were a check involved, Seelah could play cards or use powers that *affect* that check, but only Ezren could actually attempt the check.


Thanks, Vic. We've been playing it the way you described.

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