Boreal Sorcerer


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

So I'm planning out a number of characters for my first PFS games, and I've run into the following question:

The Boreal Sorcerer's level 9 power reads: "You ignore concealment and Perception penalties in natural or magical snow, ice, fog and similar weather conditions..."

Now, "You can't see more than 5 feet" is a hell of a penalty to the various Fog spells, but I have a sneaking suspicion the text is referring to -numeric- penalties. Confirm/Deny? I had immediately imagined a witch with eldritch heritage cackling madly in a fog cloud zapping people left and right, but then I re-read the text and I'm pretty sure I jumped the gun on that one.

Dark Archive

LoopyDagron wrote:

So I'm planning out a number of characters for my first PFS games, and I've run into the following question:

The Boreal Sorcerer's level 9 power reads: "You ignore concealment and Perception penalties in natural or magical snow, ice, fog and similar weather conditions..."

Now, "You can't see more than 5 feet" is a hell of a penalty to the various Fog spells, but I have a sneaking suspicion the text is referring to -numeric- penalties. Confirm/Deny? I had immediately imagined a witch with eldritch heritage cackling madly in a fog cloud zapping people left and right, but then I re-read the text and I'm pretty sure I jumped the gun on that one.

For magical fog at least, the "can't see more than 5 feet" IS considered concealment. (Total concealment to be precise.) For instance, here's the Fog Cloud spell:

"A bank of fog billows out from the point you designate. The fog obscures all sight, including darkvision, beyond 5 feet. A creature within 5 feet has concealment (attacks have a 20% miss chance). Creatures farther away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker can't use sight to locate the target)."

Natural fog lacks the latter line ("Creatures farther away...") but I'd say it's reasonable to assume that obscuring sight beyond 5 feet and granting total concealment to creatures beyond 5 feet are one and the same for that too. In other words, the bloodline power should let you see through fog (both natural and magical.)

Boreal bloodline isn't the only way to get an ability like this either; The Storm Druid archetype gets a similar ability for instance.

Silver Crusade

I knew about the full concealment, but somehow didn't connect those dots. I think I was doubting myself based on the rarity of abilities like that. Perhaps the Witch will work after all. Thanks much.

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