Xoveron has no subtypes?


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He doesn't have the demon, chaos and evil subtypes. Normal or error?

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shouldn't he also have the Mythic Subtype?


For the mythic, he's only mythic on his realm.

I'm surprised he doesn't have the demon, evil, or chaos subtype. Or at least, the demon lord subtype. Maybe a misprint?

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It's an error. He should have Demon, Chaos, Evil, and Extraplanar subtypes.

He would never have the mythic subtype, but is treated as mythic (MR 10 equivalent) when he's in his Abyssal realm.


How many times can he use the mythic surge ability while in his home realm? In the blog entry it said 10 times per day, but that's not the case in the final print. Also, what is his mythic rank when home? Another thing that was pointed out in the blog entry, than mysteriously vanished.


Where was that info on Demon Lords pulled from?


goldomark wrote:
Where was that info on Demon Lords pulled from?

Yes, and yet much of that information was omitted. And I missed that part in James' post that Xoveron is MR 10 on his home realm, which is nice to know - it just should have been in the Demon Lord Traits of The Worldwound Incursion.

Also, now that we know Xoveron is MR 10, does that mean we can figure out how many times per day he can use surge?


MR 10 = 10 surge per day. He only has that when he is on his Abyssal Realm only.

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goldomark wrote:
Where was that info on Demon Lords pulled from?

The first page of the bestiary section of "The Worldwound Incursion."

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Generic Villain wrote:
How many times can he use the mythic surge ability while in his home realm? In the blog entry it said 10 times per day, but that's not the case in the final print. Also, what is his mythic rank when home? Another thing that was pointed out in the blog entry, than mysteriously vanished.

10 times. He's equivalent to MR 10 on his home plane, but I'm not sure what you really need that information for, since he doesn't have the extra hp and perks and stuff from the mythic subtype, since he doesn't HAVE the mythic subype. He doesn't need it, since he hits his numbers on his own.

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Generic Villain wrote:
goldomark wrote:
Where was that info on Demon Lords pulled from?

Yes, and yet much of that information was omitted. And I missed that part in James' post that Xoveron is MR 10 on his home realm, which is nice to know - it just should have been in the Demon Lord Traits of The Worldwound Incursion.

Also, now that we know Xoveron is MR 10, does that mean we can figure out how many times per day he can use surge?

Yeah; it says all that info under the "Mythic" entry under the demon lord Abyssal Realm info.


James Jacobs wrote:

Yeah; it says all that info under the "Mythic" entry under the demon lord Abyssal Realm info.

No it doesn't, that's what bothered me. The blog entry says:

"Mythic: A demon lord functions as a 10th mythic rank creature, including the mythic power ability (10/day, surge +1d12). It may expend uses of mythic power to use the mythic versions of any spell-like ability denoted with an asterisk (*) just as if the ability were a mythic spell."

Whereas the actual print from The Worldwound Incursion reads:

"Mythic: All of the demon lord’s spell-like abilities function as the mythic versions of those spells as applicable. The demon lord gains the mythic power and surge universal mythic monster abilities (see Pathfinder RPG Mythic Adventures 226). A demon lord gains a d12 surge die."

This doesn't say how often a Demon Lord can use mythic surge per day - only that it's a d12 surge die. That was an error/omission I'm assuming, and one I imagine will be corrected for Bestiary 4.

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Generic Villain wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Yeah; it says all that info under the "Mythic" entry under the demon lord Abyssal Realm info.

No it doesn't, that's what bothered me. The blog entry says:

"Mythic: A demon lord functions as a 10th mythic rank creature, including the mythic power ability (10/day, surge +1d12). It may expend uses of mythic power to use the mythic versions of any spell-like ability denoted with an asterisk (*) just as if the ability were a mythic spell."

Whereas the actual print from The Worldwound Incursion reads:

"Mythic: All of the demon lord’s spell-like abilities function as the mythic versions of those spells as applicable. The demon lord gains the mythic power and surge universal mythic monster abilities (see Pathfinder RPG Mythic Adventures 226). A demon lord gains a d12 surge die."

This doesn't say how often a Demon Lord can use mythic surge per day - only that it's a d12 surge die. That was an error/omission I'm assuming, and one I imagine will be corrected for Bestiary 4.

That is then an error/typo, which makes me think that the blog text was instead taken from Bestiary 4.

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