A few questions about Ranger Animal Companions (raptor)


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The Exchange 1/5

Firstly, I am playing a level 8 Ranger with the Feat Boon Companion, so my Animal Companion is equal to my level. at level four when you obtain a companion you are limited to a select group of animals for your Companions. Since purchasing the animal archive I noticed I can purchase a raptor(dinosaur)for 600 gold. Am I allowed to use this purchased raptor as my animal companion?

There are two reasons I want a raptor (in case you require a justification) 1) They fit with my CN playstyle and 2) I challenge you to think of a more badass demon fighting companion.

Second question, does amulet of mighty fists stack with magic fang to give my Raptor the +3 bonus to overcoming demonic DR?

Third question, is there a holy horseshoe equivalent for my Raptor talons?

Fourth question, Help me name my raptor please? Fluffy is just too over used not matter how hysterical it is.

I am using this char in PFS so please keep that in mind.

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PFS FAQ wrote:

As a ranger, what list of companions can I select my animal companion from?

As a ranger, if you choose an animal companion for your hunter’s bond, you may only select one of the animals listed on page 66 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. No additional companions are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play for Rangers except when granted from another legal source.

Granted from another source means granted as an animal companion, which is not the same as a purchased animal. Generally, you'd only be able to get different animal companions from a Ranger archetype (which isn't an option unless you retrain) or a boon.

The Exchange 1/5

redward wrote:
PFS FAQ wrote:

As a ranger, what list of companions can I select my animal companion from?

As a ranger, if you choose an animal companion for your hunter’s bond, you may only select one of the animals listed on page 66 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. No additional companions are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play for Rangers except when granted from another legal source.

Granted from another source means granted as an animal companion, which is not the same as a purchased animal. Generally, you'd only be able to get different animal companions from a Ranger archetype (which isn't an option unless you retrain) or a boon.

Dang thats depressing. Ill check with my VC tonight. Also I solved the DR overcoming issue. You can purchased an amulet of mighty fists to add holy to all of your animals natural weapon attacks for 10,000 gold. that should take care of the pesky demons and devils.


I also am looking into animal companions. I have a question about them getting multiattacks. say if you have a cat that gets claw/claw/bite. How does it gain multi attacks when it's bab is +6, and does it get them on all attacks?

The Exchange 1/5

NIghtrider wrote:
I also am looking into animal companions. I have a question about them getting multiattacks. say if you have a cat that gets claw/claw/bite. How does it gain multi attacks when it's bab is +6, and does it get them on all attacks?

Animal companions don't get extra attacks from BAB when they get multi-attack it allows them to make all their attacks if they have more than one. if they only have a bite (like a wolf) or any other singular attack they get a second attack at a -5 penalty like a normal creature with a BAB of +6.

Silver Crusade 4/5

dreadfury wrote:
redward wrote:
PFS FAQ wrote:

As a ranger, what list of companions can I select my animal companion from?

As a ranger, if you choose an animal companion for your hunter’s bond, you may only select one of the animals listed on page 66 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. No additional companions are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play for Rangers except when granted from another legal source.

Granted from another source means granted as an animal companion, which is not the same as a purchased animal. Generally, you'd only be able to get different animal companions from a Ranger archetype (which isn't an option unless you retrain) or a boon.
Dang thats depressing. Ill check with my VC tonight. Also I solved the DR overcoming issue. You can purchased an amulet of mighty fists to add holy to all of your animals natural weapon attacks for 10,000 gold. that should take care of the pesky demons and devils.

Holy is going to cost you 16,000 gp since its a +2 modifier, you do not have to have the normal +1 like a weapon however.

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If you want the raptor, use the new retraining rules to shift your archetype to the beastmaster archetype, which is allowed full access to all the pet choices.

You don't need to purchase this critter, and purchasing it doesn't let you skirt the limitations.

For the multi attack ability in the druids animal companion progression, a normal raptor companion has bite claw claw talon talon at full attack value. A raptor with multi attack would have bite claw claw talon talon talon-5. Citation from SKR here I really didn't like this ruling, and thought it was unclear enough from the text that I never bothered to take advantage of it.

The Exchange 1/5

The problem with beastmaster ar htupe is thatmy archer ranger loses the 6th level combat style feat. I decided to take a level in druid to expand the animal companion list. The added bonus to this is i shoot my will and fort saves up by two. Downside is the loss of druid spellcasting because im wearing medium armor. The hit to the BAB isnt brutal but i get my raptor and that is all that matters. Win win.

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If you're trying to stack class levels for animal companions you need to use the more restrictive list. So you can take a level of druid and get a raptor animal companion, but your ranger levels won't advance that companion at all.

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Taking a level in druid doesn't expand the list for the ranger.

The raptor is well worth a feat you probably have the pre reqs for anyway.

Grand Lodge

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NIghtrider wrote:
I also am looking into animal companions. I have a question about them getting multiattacks. say if you have a cat that gets claw/claw/bite. How does it gain multi attacks when it's bab is +6, and does it get them on all attacks?

Natural attacks are not iterative. The number of natural attacks critters get is fixed by the number of natural weapons they have. It does not increase with BAB, nor does it require a minimum BAB. Multi-attack does not change the number of natural attacks, it lessens the penalty for the secondaries.

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Lazar, check out the linked post from SKR. Specifically it says a cat with claw claw bite gets another attack at -5, otherwise it wouldn't be fair to critters who have multiple attacks. Mind you critters with multiple attacks are already miles ahead of those with just one but...

The Exchange 1/5

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Taking a level in druid doesn't expand the list for the ranger.

The raptor is well worth a feat you probably have the pre reqs for anyway.

Bah and the druid was such a good level investment too. the combat style feat lets you get improved precise shot 5 levels before anyone else. basically im trying to use the raptor as a massive increase in damage over the petty wolf. ill have to look at small cats it seems.

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dreadfury wrote:
Bah and the druid was such a good level investment too. the combat style feat lets you get improved precise shot 5 levels before anyone else. basically im trying to use the raptor as a massive increase in damage over the petty wolf. ill have to look at small cats it seems.

It's mostly a case of not being able to both have the cake and eating it too. Saurian Shaman druids are both insanely powerful by themselves as well as having some of the best animal companions and summons. Archery Rangers get Improved Precise 5 levels early. can't have both :)

Dark Archive 4/5

Take the massive damage increase with a bow or with an animal companion. In Pathfinder Society, at least, you cannot get both early. There's also nothing wrong with the wolf.

To answer your other question, magic fang and an amulet of mighty fists both grant enhancement bonuses, and therefore do not stack. Always check what type of bonus an item or ability grants.

The holy amulet of mighty fists, as Melavis stated, will cost you 16,000 gp.

The Exchange 1/5

i guess i can just stomach the bad animal companions until level 10 and switch out the archetype.

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dreadfury wrote:
Downside is the loss of druid spellcasting because im wearing medium armor.

Both Rangers and Druids are proficient in medium armor. Druids can actually cast in any type of armor, they just don't gain automatic proficiency with heavy armor.

Dark Archive 4/5

Keep in mind the hefty cost to retrain at level 8. I count three class features the Beast Master archetype replaces; at five days each that's 15 prestige points and either 1200 gp at level 8 or 1500 gp at level 10.

The Exchange 1/5

Nefreet wrote:
dreadfury wrote:
Downside is the loss of druid spellcasting because im wearing medium armor.
Both Rangers and Druids are proficient in medium armor. Druids can actually cast in any type of armor, they just don't gain automatic proficiency with heavy armor.

they actually lose the ability to cast spells in metal armor, my mithril breastplate will kill the spellcasting form the druid.

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