Using simulacrum to create mythic minions


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Can you use the simulacrum spell to create a sim of a mythic creature? If so, will the sim have mythic abilities as well? Why, or why not?


I'd have to say no, as simulacrum only covers character levels and normal HD and Mythic Tiers add neither of those. And from a conceptual standpoint, it keeps mythic more inline with being a rare and unusual gift.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Meh, I don't really buy that argument since simulacrum covers everything about a creature. Being mythic is as much a part of a creature as a feat or HD.


The real question is, do you half the mythic tiers like you would for levels? They don't really count as levels, so I'm inclined to say no.. which could be silly, given a character with enough mythic tiers.


I think from a storytelling standpoint, it's better to leave mythic special and rare and not clone it with simulacrum. The spell already does more than enough.


I would rule no. Nothing mythic should be attainable through non-mythic spells, or any non-mythic means that don't explicitly state they grant something mythic.

I would even rule that simulacrum doesn't just make a copy of anything you might know of... you would actually need the creature to copy it. And even when you have the creature: mythic isn't copied.

Mythic is supposed to be special... standard non-mythic rules written before mythic(and probably after) probably won't work as advertised when interacting with. The system is evolving, but changing everything affected by new stuff would take up more than half of a new rulebook, and we would get less new stuff. Let the boards discuss rules interactions, and let tables play the game.

@RD: You don't buy the argument because a legacy spell written long ago should apply verbatim to everything written forever thereafter.
I don't allow players to make balor simulacra en masse, as soon as they can cast the spell.

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