Ultimate Equipment Kits and PFS


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Ultimate Equipment has kits for pretty much everything.

Now, they weights (and costs) don't add up to the items bought separately.

For example the Alchemist's kit weighs 24 lbs vs 37 lbs when bought in pieces.

How does the kit work in PFS? I use a Torch, what weight should I remove? Similarly if I drop the Iron Pot (smashed to bits by a axe blade trap), how does my weight change? Is it the item's weight (so dropping the kit would be -13 lbs) or (weight of kit/weight of pieces*dropped item)? So for example in the Alchemist's kit is the Iron pot 2lbs or 1,3lbs or something completely different?

Now in a home game this wouldn't be a problem as the (weight of kit/weight of pieces*dropped item) formula could be used of course, but in PFS we need to play by the rules and there isn't a good one for this one.

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I think for PFS it would be wt = min(weight of kit, weight of remaining pieces.)


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You also need to make sure that you aren't comparing the weight for a small sized creature with those of a medium creature.

Several kits (if not all) have both weights listed.

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Kaapelikala wrote:
For example the Alchemist's kit weighs 24 lbs vs 37 lbs when bought in pieces.

That's got to be an error. I can see a price break when buying kits in bulk, but a weight break? That doesn't really make sense....

I'm hoping eventually errata come out for Ultimate Equipment. The most egregious error I've seen thus far is that the Alchemy Crafting Kit is listed as 50lbs, which would seriously hamper any actual Alchemist character. It's only 5 lbs in the Advanced Players Guide (where it's called an "Alchemist's Kit", but that name means something else in UE), which has got to be what was intended.

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Wow, I never noticed the weight difference. I wonder if the weight just forgets to include the full weight of all 10 torches and all 5 days of rations. If you only add the weight of 1 each of torches and ration you get 24 lbs.

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Most of the other kits have this same problem too. The Pathfinder's Kit for small humanoids is also strange as the kit weighs more than the pieces together...

Adding the weight of the multiples (food, torches) solves the problem in home games. In PFS I wouldn't do that right away as it's not in the rules. If it could be made into a house-rule for larger areas, it wouldn't be a problem. Now I don't know if my junk weighs 37 lbs or 24 lbs when I go and play with a different group/GM.

Let's hope for an errata.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Here's your answer, from the fingers of Sean K. Reynolds.

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That still doesn't change the fact that that I don't know the weight of my bedroll, iron pot, food or torches.

Why else have stuff weigh anything? I'd be happy to dump Str on my caster while carrying an elephant, but that's not the way it works in PFS. Stuff weighs, you get penalties for carrying too much. If I must drop the whole kit, I don't see the point in them.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Muser wrote:
Here's your answer, from the fingers of Sean K. Reynolds.

I love how his answer is basically, "You have more important things to worry about than whether we get everything right." :/

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