Collision Course: The debate about sin weapons


Rise of the Runelords


So one of my players gave me a neat idea a few weeks ago, and it's coming together in an interesting way that I feel like writing about. :)

Background Event #1:

Spoiler:

I did a very stupid thing during the battle in the dam. I got it in my head that the trapped outsiders were demons, so I played the surviving one as willing to say or do anything to get free - and the moment the wizard freed him, he vanished (despite having promised to do x, y and z for the wizard moments before).

Me, an hour after the session: "Wait - pit fiends are devils. Dammit!"

Background Event #2:

Spoiler:

After the defense of Sandpoint, when the party was being showered with accolades and goodies, the cleric of Iomedae pretty much turned down all forms of swag but begged to be given a holy quest.

So I wanted to redeem my screwed-up RP-ing of the devil, and wanted to come up with something neat for the cleric. The solution, in two parts:

Spoiler:

The pit fiend, still not fully recovered, appears to the wizard, explaining that he wouldn't abide a single second more in his former prison - but that he's now back and intends to repay his debt. He explains the oppositional nature of the sins, and how the forging of rune weapons works, and what to do to make greed-smashing items. He lets on that his ulterior motive is to be standing there waiting when the lawful-evil Karzoug arrives in Hell...

Meanwhile, the cleric receives a vision (whether it was real or a waking dream was left a bit ambiguous) in which an angel explains the oppositional nature of the sins, and how the forging of rune weapons works...and then she charges him with getting the party to NOT forge any, and to defeat Karzoug without using sin magic.

The cleric has made one sally so far, saying that it's not a real victory to kill a sin mage with sin magic, but the others weren't persuaded. I assume he'll start to turn up the volume as the decisive moment gets closer.

(It struck me as nicely devilish that the fiend is repaying his debt, endangering a hated enemy, and nudging heroic mortals towards corruption all at once.)


Except the weapons can be Virtue Weapons as well. Thus a weapon can be forged and used with Virtue Magic... which was Xin's original emphasis prior to being killed by the Runelords.


Tangent101 wrote:
Except the weapons can be Virtue Weapons as well. Thus a weapon can be forged and used with Virtue Magic... which was Xin's original emphasis prior to being killed by the Runelords.

Where do they talk about virtuous weapons? I don't remember any mention of the virtues except in the appendix about the origins of sin magic.


Under the weapons themselves they state that if used by someone with sufficient Virtue Points, they function the same way. That's why you have the Sin and Virtue together - someone virtuous will find the equivalent "Sin Weapon" to function properly and work with their Virtue.

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