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It's odd, complicated, and involved, but I don't think it's cheating by any stretch of the imagination.
If you can retrain feats to take advantages of prereqs you didn't have at the time you originally took the feat (like retraining your first level feat to Power Attack for a non-full BAB class) because Character Builds don't have "memory" then you can certainly do this.
I don't like retraining in general, but the Extra Traits retrain isn't any cheesier than any of the rest of it.
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It's odd, complicated, and involved, but I don't think it's cheating by any stretch of the imagination.
If you can retrain feats to take advantages of prereqs you didn't have at the time you originally took the feat (like retraining your first level feat to Power Attack for a non-full BAB class) because Character Builds don't have "memory" then you can certainly do this.
I don't like retraining in general, but the Extra Traits retrain isn't any cheesier than any of the rest of it.
I don't think it's legal. Just like I don't think you can take expanded arcana, then retrain it and swap out a different spell than the one you picked up. The traits you gain with extra traits are tied to that feat, and any retraining can only involve those two traits.
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...I don't think you can take expanded arcana, then retrain it and swap out a different spell than the one you picked up.
Why would that not be allowed?
Expanded Arcana (magic missile) --> Expanded Arcana (shield), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
Similarly,
Weapon Focus (bastard sword) --> Weapon Focus (kukri), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
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...I don't think you can take expanded arcana, then retrain it and swap out a different spell than the one you picked up.Why would that not be allowed?
Expanded Arcana (magic missile) --> Expanded Arcana (shield), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
Similarly,
Weapon Focus (bastard sword) --> Weapon Focus (kukri), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
I'm saying you can't take Expanded Arcana (magic missile), then retrain the feat to Spell Penetration and drop color spray instead of magic missile. You'd lose whatever specific spell you took with the feat.
Edit: ninja'd!
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...I don't think you can take expanded arcana, then retrain it and swap out a different spell than the one you picked up.Why would that not be allowed?
Expanded Arcana (magic missile) --> Expanded Arcana (shield), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
Similarly,
Weapon Focus (bastard sword) --> Weapon Focus (kukri), 5 PP, 50 gp/level.
I'm saying you can't take Expanded Arcana (magic missile), then retrain the feat to Spell Penetration and drop color spray instead of magic missile. You'd lose whatever specific spell you took with the feat.
Edit: ninja'd!
So, the first thing I asked myself is why that would be the case, because while that would certainly be the stupid way to do it (easier to just retrain the spell known) it is not intuitively obvious that it's illegal. So I went to the the Expanded Arcana feat, and the thing that seems like it would keep you from doing that is the bolded line below:
Your research has revealed new spells.
Prerequisites: Caster level 1st, see Special.
Benefit: Add one spell from your class's spell list to your list of spells known. This is in addition to the number of spells normally gained at each new level in your class. You may instead add two spells from your class's spell list to your list of spells known, but both of these spells must be at least one level lower than the highest level spell you can cast in that class. Once made, these choices cannot be changed.
Special: You can only take this feat if you possess levels in a class whose spellcasting relies on a limited list of spells known, such as the bard, oracle, and sorcerer.
You can gain Expanded Arcana multiple times.
Interestingly, that implies that you couldn't swap that spell out with the Sorcerers ability to learn a new spell in place of an old one every few levels, as it's permanently bound to the Feat.
But Additional Traits has no such restriction. So these choices don't seem bound to the Feat in the same way that the choice of Expanded Arcana is.
You have more traits than normal.
Benefit: You gain two character traits of your choice (see Chapter 8).
These traits must be chosen from different lists, and cannot be chosen from lists from which you have already selected a character trait. You must meet any additional qualifications for the character traits you choose.
I guess the question with Extra/Additional xxxx feats is whether you are purchasing specific things, or opening up slots. Before retraining options were available, the difference was moot.
Or in other words, if your Background Traits were A and B, and you picked up the Additional Traits feat so that you could gain traits C and D, which of these two do you get?
Additional Traits(C,D)
Additional Traits(allows you a total of 4 traits)
My read is that it's the latter (opening up slots), but I'd only put my confidence level in that interpretation at about 65%.