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This is a question that came up during my PBP game.
If you are Disabled (at 0 HP) and thus Staggered, you can use your single action to heal yourself. This does inflict a point of damage for a standard action, but so long as you're still above 0, it's all good.
The question here is: do you then get your other action back for clearing the Disabled/Staggered condition?
Cleric starts at 0 HP.
Cleric uses sole standard action to channel energy. Heals 3, -1 for standard action, or total of 2 HP. Back up to 2.
Does this Cleric now get to use his extra move action? Or, because he started Disabled, is he still limited to the one action he took?
The players did bring up this quote from the Core book, though I thought it was more about being healed when not your turn:
Healing that raises your hit points above 0 makes you fully functional again, just as if you'd never been reduced to 0 or fewer hit points.
From reading a 21 page thread on EN world about the whether you still take the 1HP loss it seems unlikely that we'll get a definitive answer.
Mind you, that was from 2005, but I can't find any official errata about the whole thing. Whether the movement actions would be allowed doesn't seem to come up anywhere. I think it may be a case of you having to make a judgement call, Blake.
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I'm almost certain you still take the 1 HP loss, it seems pretty clear on that.
but if you perform any standard action (or any other strenuous action) you take 1 point of damage after completing the act. Unless your activity increased your hit points, you are now at –1 hit points and dying.
My question was more on whether you recover your move action if you heal your own Disabled state.
I have always understood that you start a turn with the actions you have available unless you have an item or ability that grants extra actions. So, I would say that no, you do not gain new actions.
Note: I cannot point to any rules regarding this. It is just something I think is assumed in the rules due to how things are set up.
- Gauss
My question was more on whether you recover your move action if you heal your own Disabled state.
Yeah, I was just using it to point out that if people are so split on the HP issue, there's even less likely to be a consensus on something which is even more unclear in the rules. :)
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I have always understood that you start a turn with the actions you have available unless you have an item or ability that grants extra actions. So, I would say that no, you do not gain new actions.
Note: I cannot point to any rules regarding this. It is just something I think is assumed in the rules due to how things are set up.
- Gauss
That was my thought as well. I'm just not sure if there are rules to support it one way or another.
If you started the turn with a normal status, and an opponent was able to stun you with an AoO or readied action you would be able to act normally, despite being stunned, because you weren't stunned at the beginning of the turn?
The same rule should apply both ways.
Quantum Steve,
Being stunned does not mean you do not have a standard and a move action. It means you are unable to use your actions. There is a difference there. If someone had the means to fix your status right after your turn started (perhaps an immediate action ability) then you would still have your normal actions.
Summary: There is a difference between being reduced in actions and being unable to execute any actions you may have.
- Gauss
Quantum Steve,
Being stunned does not mean you do not have a standard and a move action. It means you are unable to use your actions. There is a difference there. If someone had the means to fix your status right after your turn started (perhaps an immediate action ability) then you would still have your normal actions.
Summary: There is a difference between being reduced in actions and being unable to execute any actions you may have.
- Gauss
So, if they were instead able to stagger you, which does reduce your actions, what would happen?
You would have already used up one of those actions (such as an AoO reducing you to staggered). There is no rule to state which action is lost, so my take is that that the reduction in actions occurs on your next turn. However, it is far from clear.
- Gauss