Gnome Magic and spell-like abilities


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Grand Lodge

So the Gnome Magic racial trait gives gives gnomes a +1 to the DC of illusion spells they cast as well as 4 spell-like abilities they can use 1/day each if they have a Charisma of 11 or higher.

One of these spell-like abilities is ghost sound, an illusion spell.

Does the +1 DC to illusion spells apply to this spell-like ability or not since it's not specifically a spell?


Yes

Scarab Sages

See the recent FAQs to the CRB regarding Spell-like abilities. The gnome's bonus would apply to his SLA and his spells alike.

Grand Lodge

Thanks for the speedy responses.

Not trying to be a pain, but I went to the FAQ and didn't see anything specific about that. Lots of stuff about spell-like abilities, but nothing about bonuses that affect spells affecting spell-like abilities. If I'm blind, please let me know, and let me know what a good typist I am. :)

Scarab Sages

In re-reading the FAQs, I have to admit that our certainty is much more based on inference than flat fact. Given that the SLA counts as a spell to qualify for feats or item creation, it would only make sense that the inverse would be true and it counts as a spell for being affected by feats.

Grand Lodge

Ssalarn wrote:
In re-reading the FAQs, I have to admit that our certainty is much more based on inference than flat fact. Given that the SLA counts as a spell to qualify for feats or item creation, it would only make sense that the inverse would be true and it counts as a spell for being affected by feats.

I thought that too. But I also noticed the FAQ right above the one you linked that SKR put up. Granted it was 2011, but it seems to suggest the opposite for the same reasons.


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Strife2002 wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:
In re-reading the FAQs, I have to admit that our certainty is much more based on inference than flat fact. Given that the SLA counts as a spell to qualify for feats or item creation, it would only make sense that the inverse would be true and it counts as a spell for being affected by feats.
I thought that too. But I also noticed the FAQ right above the one you linked that SKR put up. Granted it was 2011, but it seems to suggest the opposite for the same reasons.

Strife, I have the same concerns that you have. It seems right to assume that the current rules interpretation supports spell-like abilities gaining bonuses that are meant for spells... but since there hasn't been any FAQ flat out stating this I'm a bit wary about using this interpretation.

The one solid piece of evidence we have though is that devs have stated that the Summoner's Summon Monster SLA benefits from the Augment Summon feat even though the feat says it only benefits spells. They even gave the Master Summoner archetype the Augment Summon feat, so I guess we have to assume that the rules support this.

I'm hoping this is the case, because I'm thinking of building a PFS kitsune sorcerer with the magical tail feats... and it would be kind of sad of the SLAs from those feats don't benefit from his own racial bonuses.

Grand Lodge

Strife2002 wrote:

So the Gnome Magic racial trait gives gives gnomes a +1 to the DC of illusion spells they cast as well as 4 spell-like abilities they can use 1/day each if they have a Charisma of 11 or higher.

edited to remove incorrect clarification.

never mind, I misread that ability.

Damn, I've been robbing my gnome.

Grand Lodge

@ Matrix Dragon

Good point...I think until something official comes out, I'll just houserule it this way.

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