Animal Companions, quick question


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Lantern Lodge

So, I'm trying to build a beast rider cavalier...

I'm having trouble with a couple of things I've seen and or heard, and since I'm new to animal companions I want to try to get it all cleared up.

I've seen a couple guides that reference having a dire tiger, as opposed to a regular tiger. How do you obtain a dire tiger? I thought you just followed the information found in the druid section, you get a tiger and at level 7 it increases to large. How do you gain the dire tiger?


Which guides? I'm not seeing the option in the d20pfsrd (which also has 3pp) for PFRPG.


Greetings, fellow traveller.

All animal companions available are listed in the CRB and the Bestiaries. The tiger is in the CRB.
As Skylancer4 said, I don't know of any guides where you can obtain a dire tiger as an animal companion (with the special rules set for ACs).
You can, of course use charm animal to have a dire tiger follow you around, but that's something totally different.

The tiger listed in the AC section will eventually double the statistics of a dire tiger straight out of the Bestiary (and overtake it due to better armor class, more feats, more skills etc.).

Thus you're correct in assuming you follow the rules found in the druid section up to the last iota. All information is found there or you'll be redirected to other sections from there, but your tiger animal companion has got nothing to do with the Bestiary tiger.

Ruyan.

Grand Lodge

FrodoOf9Fingers wrote:
I've seen a couple guides that reference having a dire tiger, as opposed to a regular tiger. How do you obtain a dire tiger? I thought you just followed the information found in the druid section, you get a tiger and at level 7 it increases to large. How do you gain the dire tiger?

The dire tiger doesn't have a listed animal companion progression. Moreover, it's not listed in the table in Appendix 7 of the Bestiary, which the text describes thus: "The following list indexes all additional animal companions found in this book".

Nothing in the beast rider's Exotic Mount ability allows him to take a mount that is not otherwise available as an animal companion, except by GM fiat (and the GM would also have to write a new progression for it).


I'm pretty sure that people just refer to the Large version at level 7 to be a Dire Tiger. There's no secret or trick here.

Scarab Sages

What mplindustries said. The "Dire" Tiger most people are talking about is your standard big cat animal companion post level 7.

Lantern Lodge

So, the guide referenced is found Here

Under animal training. Perhaps it's just not optimal? Perhaps they are just trained animals, and not animal companions?

I'm really not sure I understand the implications, but could, lets say, a fighter capture, train, and then ride a tiger as a mount (With the -5 penalty for it not being optimal for being a mount) at later levels, with sufficient downtime, etc... All for simply having good ranks in handle animal? Would he require the leadership feat?

Would he then be able to have several tigers going around with him?

I'm not too entirely clear about the handle animal skill, if that wasn't clear enough...


That section of the guide is talking about capturing and training animals. So yes, a fighter could do that, and would not require a leadership feat. He could even have several tigers going around with him.

Generally speaking the only limitation is time and your GM's patience.

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