Diabolist Imp Animal Companion and Creature Type


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Dark Archive

I can't find anything in the prestige class that says the Imp Animal Companion counts as an outsider. Does this mean it defaults to the Animal type, and it's alignment is neutral?

Or is it a LE Outsider[devil, evil, lawful] with all the abilities that those types and subtypes bring?

Does it get weapon finesse for free since its base size is tiny?

Strict RAW, please, since this is for a PFS character (I am aware that I must be able to actually Lesser Planar Binding/Ally off my spells known to qualify).

Liberty's Edge

Share Spells

The diabolist may cast a spell with a target of “You” on her imp (as a touch spell) instead of on herself. A diabolist may cast spells on her imp even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of the imp's type (outsider).

Dark Archive

Where is that from?

My book says:

Share Spells: This works like the wizard's familiar ability rather than the druid animal companion ability. (Princes of Darkness pg 45)

Does that mean RAW it is an outsider, but not subtype lawful, evil, or devil?

Liberty's Edge

I was going off the d20pfsrd.

But why would being a companion have any impact on the type or subtype of a creature?


You're playing a character that willingly consorts with devils. The imp is a devil, therefore it is an outsider with all the appropriate subtypes it comes with. Nothing in the class changes that fact. It says it acts as a druid's animal companion simply for the fact that--unlike a wizard's familiar--the imp's abilities will increase significantly as the diabolist increases in level, therefore it advances as an animal companion. That doesn't mean it is an animal companion.

The Share Spells section is saying that the ability works like the wizard version, not the druid version. That's all it's saying. Though I'm not certain why they make the distinction, because the ability is virtually the same for both classes. Probably because the druid version has the restriction "Spells cast in this way must come from a class that grants an animal companion." So it means that you can cast spells with a target of "You" on your imp companion instead of yourself.

Dark Archive

But nothing in the rules for the imp companion in the prestige class say what type it is. Just like a Ape animal Companion is a complete different creature with different stats from an Ape in the Beastiary, the Imp companion only gets what is listed in it's animal companion states and the prestige class write up. Assuming strict rules as written.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to count as an Outsider[Lawful, Evil, Devil]. But I'm not sure that it does strictly RAW, and no amount of logic or story fluff will overcome that for PFS.

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StrangePackage wrote:

I was going off the d20pfsrd.

But why would being a companion have any impact on the type or subtype of a creature?

This is why you shouldn't be using D20PFSRD.com as a rules authority.


Victor Zajic wrote:

But nothing in the rules for the imp companion in the prestige class say what type it is. Just like a Ape animal Companion is a complete different creature with different stats from an Ape in the Beastiary, the Imp companion only gets what is listed in it's animal companion states and the prestige class write up. Assuming strict rules as written.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to count as an Outsider[Lawful, Evil, Devil]. But I'm not sure that it does strictly RAW, and no amount of logic or story fluff will overcome that for PFS.

Unless the rules specifically say there is a change in type, like the wizard's familiar rules stating they are considered magical beasts rather than animals, then it remains the same.

Dark Archive

I was going to make the point that Diablo says to use the druid animal companion rules unless stated otherwise, but it only says to use "Table 3-8 Animal Companion Base Statistics in the core rulebook, with the following changes"

The part of Druid that says "They remain creatures of the animal type for purposes of determining which spells can affect them." is not on that table.

So I guess they definitly don't default to animal.

The real question here is that since I'm not supposed to use the Beastiary stats to determine the imp's ability (they don't get DR, for example), do I get to ignore that when determining it's type, since there is no other information to base it off of?

For the record, adding those types and subtypes grants the Imp Companion a lot of powerful abilities, like See in Magical Darkness and Immunity to Fire and Poison, that are not listed in the Imp Base Statistics write up or the prestige class.

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