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Inspired by the bullrush mechanic of beating a DC by 5.
The intimidate skill states that the target becomes shaken for 1 round + 1 additional round for every 5 by which you beat the DC. I propose the following options.
-If you beat the DC by 5 you can make them Frightened for 1 round.
-If you beat the DC by 15 you can make them Panicked for 1 round.
-If you beat the DC by 30 you can make them Cowering for 1 round.
The value of these fear-based conditions can be divided to be extended over a number of rounds.
- 2 rounds of Shaken = 1 round of Frightened.
- 2 rounds of Frightened = 1 round of Panicked.
- 2 rounds of Panicked = 1 round of Cowering.
My ADD is kicking in and this is getting hard to explain. I think you all get the basic idea.
What then, would you suggest the Thug Rogue Archetype do?
They've already established that the exchange rate is 4 rounds of shaken = 1 Frightened, not to mention that getting even that that requires a very specific archetype of a suboptimal class.
Stacking fear conditions like this is extremely powerful. It should not be this easy.
What then, would you suggest the Thug Rogue Archetype do?
They've already established that the exchange rate is 4 rounds of shaken = 1 Frightened, not to mention that getting even that that requires a very specific archetype of a suboptimal class.
Stacking fear conditions like this is extremely powerful. It should not be this easy.
Ah. So the idea has already been hatched. Thank you for making me aware.
I think the skill could use some extra love, even if its not this idea. I think a feat would be appropiate. That way, a character doesn't need to choose an simply archetype to fulfill one aspect of a character concept.
I think the skill could use some extra love, even if its not this idea. I think a feat would be appropiate. That way, a character doesn't need to choose an simply archetype to fulfill one aspect of a character concept.
It's bad enough trying to explain to a player why getting hit by a thug is making him run away. When just about anyone can make them flee, it'll be a riot. Intimidate shaking someone is just about right. Having it do more is pretty disassociative, if you ask me.
I think the skill could use some extra love, even if its not this idea. I think a feat would be appropiate. That way, a character doesn't need to choose an simply archetype to fulfill one aspect of a character concept.It's bad enough trying to explain to a player why getting hit by a thug is making him run away. When just about anyone can make them flee, it'll be a riot. Intimidate shaking someone is just about right. Having it do more is pretty disassociative, if you ask me.
Getting this option through one rogue level is not good.
I would prefer a feat AND/or (home) rules for the intimidate skill.
For example:
With feat (or Thug):
4 rounds shaken = > 1 round frightend
16 rounds shaken = > 4 rounds frightend = > 1 round Panicked
64 rounds shaken = > 16 rounds frightend = > 4 rounds Panicked = > 1 round Cowering
Without Feat:
8 rounds shaken = > 1 round frightend
8 rounds frightend = > 1 round Panicked
8 rounds Panicked = > 1 round Cowering