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Is there a way to have a Wayfinder enchanted with the improved Light Spells? I’m annoyed with Darkness and Greater Darkness spells and all that other nonsense. So I wanted to know if there’s a way to have an existing Wayfinder with the most ubber light spell, so that when you pop it open it will negate Dark effects? And would you have to pay for an entire new spell, every time you wanted a better one or would you just have to pay the difference, like going from a +1 weapon to a +2 weapon?
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Would a dayfinder suit your needs? You can upgrade a Wayfinder into a dayfinder with 10PP. It will cast daylight 1/day instead of light.
Details in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide p63.
Dayfinder (10 PP): Similar to a normal wayfinder in all external ways, this rare form of wayfinder differs in the potency of its light-emitting abilities. Once per day, the light generated by an active dayfinder replicates a daylight spell for a duration of 1 minute. These powerful tools against darkness are granted to experienced Pathfinders by generous venture-captains, and may only be purchased on the black market within the Society itself, and even then only by exchanging favors—never for gold.
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I just got a Wayfinder of the Ten. (Don't know the name.) Its a nice toy that gives me +2 bonus to diplomacy with all Pathfinders, since its stamped with the seal of the Decemvirate. Now I'd like it to do more for me and I've heard there are Super Awesome Total Darkness spells and I'd like something to counter those suckers. 1/day is nice but isn't good enough against creatures that constantly cast uber Darkness spells and then stab you in the back.
I'd like something that will shine bright in the darkest corners of Golarion and give me a chance to actually see what I'm fighting.
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Venture-Captain, Massachusetts—Central & West
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The trick-of-the-now is to get someone to cast a Heightened Continual Flame to at least 4th level on an item of yours. As long as it's cast higher than third level, it should take care of 3rd or lower when you pull it out.
(Note: Be sure to note caster level when getting this done, because some monsters with Darkness at will also have Dispel Magic at will.)
Would a dayfinder suit your needs? You can upgrade a Wayfinder into a dayfinder with 10PP. It will cast daylight 1/day instead of light.
Details in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide p63.
Dayfinder (10 PP): Similar to a normal wayfinder in all external ways, this rare form of wayfinder differs in the potency of its light-emitting abilities. Once per day, the light generated by an active dayfinder replicates a daylight spell for a duration of 1 minute. These powerful tools against darkness are granted to experienced Pathfinders by generous venture-captains, and may only be purchased on the black market within the Society itself, and even then only by exchanging favors—never for gold.
That’s something I wouldn’t mind having, but 10 PP is a bit too steep for me, at least right now. I need to save my PP, I will be heading off to Bonekeep soon enough.
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The trick-of-the-now is to get someone to cast a Heightened Continual Flame to at least 4th level on an item of yours. As long as it's cast higher than third level, it should take care of 3rd or lower when you pull it out.
(Note: Be sure to note caster level when getting this done, because some monsters with Darkness at will also have Dispel Magic at will.)
Heightened Continual Flame you say, I may just do that.
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Problem for me is that I can already cast daylight as an Aasimar ability. But casting it only made the BBEG re-cast his Darkness spell and canceled my Daylight. I checked later on and his was only a lvl. 2 Darkness spell, I believe but it knocked my Daylight out, which I read was a lvl. 3 spell.
Then your GM needs to read up on the darkness/light rules. There's a couple of questions still awaiting FAQ treatment, but most of the basics have finally been ironed out, and a thorough and objective reading of the rules and FAQs will cover most basic issues.
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Please spoiler that if you read this within an hour Eric. That particular one should not have overridden your daylight, it is deeper darkness (the same level as daylight). Remember that in areas where a deeper darkess and daylight overlap, the prevailing light conditions take over (which for that scenario is normal darkness).
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Remember they have touch the object that you targeted with your daylight spell to counter it. Light and darkness spells have a range of touch. There can be ten darkness spells in effect and one daylight spell will cancel them out. A monster can't just recast darkness or deeper darkness to negate your daylight.
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Ok, he cast deeper darkness on himself. I cast daylight on myself to counter it. Now he casts it again.
What is the light situation? Sorry, but this is really confusing, so I don't want to get it wrong.
If I am understanding the spell descriptions right, bringing the same level of light or darkness into an area where the opposite is in effect negates (NOT dispels) the other effect, cancelling it out so the light level is the same as it was before either spell/spell like ability was put into effect.
But if the light level has gone back to normal conditions, and then another deeper darkness spell is cast, does that not turn the area dark?
Deeper Darkness negating the effects of Daylight - then another Deeper Darkness spell turning it dark.
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But if the light level has gone back to normal conditions, and then another deeper darkness spell is cast, does that not turn the area dark?
Deeper Darkness negating the effects of Daylight - then another Deeper Darkness spell turning it dark.
Not as I interpret it. To change the level of light/darkness in the area, you would need to introduce a spell/spell like ability of higher level (or wait for the opposing spell/SLA to end).
Edited to add the following: In other words, the 'effects' of light or darkness spells do not 'stack' (e.g. 2 deeper darknesses don't eliminate the effects of daylight, only a higher level darkness spell/SLA would).
yes, there is a weird complication of separate rules for dispel/counterspell only, separate rules for Daylight specifically that doesn't care about spell level at all "Daylight brought into an area of magical darkness (or vice versa) is temporarily negated, so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect.", and then the rules for light/dark spells in general. Sometimes it's better to just close your eyes. :-)
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But if the light level has gone back to normal conditions, and then another deeper darkness spell is cast, does that not turn the area dark?
Deeper Darkness negating the effects of Daylight - then another Deeper Darkness spell turning it dark.
No. The spells are still in effect. Daylight negates its light effects and the darkness effect where the spells overlap. Any new Darkness spells would still be negated.
It's less clear what happens to lower level light spells or mundane light sources.Looking more closely at the wording: It's possible to read it so that the negation of the Daylight spell means it wouldn't affect a new Darkness in the same area, but that leads to the weirdness that you could walk out, so that the AoE didn't overlap, then walk back in negating the "area of magical darkness" caused now by the two Darkness spells.
How is it possible to interpret it the way you suggest?
Daylight brought into an area of magical darkness (or vice versa) is temporarily negated, so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect.
An "area of magical darkness" doesn't specify one darkness spell. The "area of magical darkness" can have 2 darkness spells, they will both be negated. I like to think of it like stacking similar bonuses. Just as you wouldn't stack multiple competence bonuses, you wouldn't stack multiple light level changes, you apply the highest penalty/bonus.