When can you get intensive spell when calculating your CL?


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Shadow Lodge

I was thinking you had to be five levels over the maximum caster level in order to use intensive spell for a spell. Tenth level for shocking grasp, fifteenth level for fireball and so forth. Am I wrong on this ;Henceforth, then, how do you calculate when you can use intensive spell being I'm wrong?


ShadowDax wrote:
I was thinking you had to be five levels over the maximum caster level in order to use intensive spell for a spell. Tenth level for shocking grasp, fifteenth level for fireball and so forth. Am I wrong on this ;Henceforth, then, how do you calculate when you can use intensive spell being I'm wrong?

You can use Intensive Spell like any other metamagic. As long as you can pay the level increase you can use it.

Now it may not give a full BENEFIT if your caster level is not 5 or more levels over the maximum results of an unaltered spell but nothing says you cannot use it.

You increase the damage cap by 5 more caster levels. If, for example, your only 2 caster levels over the spells inherent cap then you get 2 more caster levels of effect. You will need to get 3 more caster levels to get full use out of the feat.

Just plan to take it and use it appropriately.


You can use Intensified spell on any spell at any time.

It just only does anything if you have a higher CL than the normal cap.

If your caster level is 6, Intensified Shocking Grasp will do 6d6 damage.

Shadow Lodge

Thanks, I never knew you could use it W/O the five extra levels.


ShadowDax wrote:
Thanks, I never knew you could use it W/O the five extra levels.

You could be a 5th level wizard and use it on shocking grasp by expending a second level spell slot. It would not get you any benefit because your not strong enough in CL to do so yet but as long as you can pay the level increase you can use a Metamagic effect.

But that does not mean it will always be effective, depending on HOW you use it.

Shadow Lodge

I plan on using this with a Magus at 11th level. I never thought I could use it before hand. Don't know if that would have changed things of me using this feat before 11th level.


I would say most magi pick up Intensify Spell at 5th level--since the vast majority have Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter for Shocking Grasp, there's no downside to Intensifying your Shocking Grasps right away.

Shadow Lodge

I plan on using this with a Magus at 11th level in PFS. I never thought I could use it before hand. Don't know if that would have changed things of me using this feat before 11th level. I have a set number of feats I plan to get and of course, some are more important than others. Maximized spell strike at 13th, greater trip at 9th and the like.

Shadow Lodge

Magical Lineage and Force Punch, hmmm. I hit the wrong button when I was editing. Magical Lineage and a trait feet to make perception a class skill might be in order for 15th level.

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