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Seventeen years ago a bunch of aliens got the smackdown while attempting to invade earth. What has happened since then? A lot of Alien Tech has been up for grabs. That's enough time for the worst of the survivors to carve out a piece of the pie.

Global The security State has experienced a major setback with the loss of the internet, and all its satellites and surveillance and monitoring infrastructure.

July 1, 1999: North Korea has conducted an Invasion of South Korea - taking the opportunity to shut off power to all their cities and invade the south during the attack.

July 6, 1999: Pretty much untouched by the aliens because they were a low tech - low priority target. They are soon flooded with Refugees from surrounding lands who experienced its isolationist policies in the aftermath of the war - the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of refugees - who vanish in the chaos.

September 11, 2001: it is two years since the war. The global black market is flooded with alien tech and Chinese and Russian Weapons.

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Seventeen years ago a bunch of aliens got the smackdown while attempting to invade earth. What has happened since then? A lot of Alien Tech has been up for grabs. That's enough time for the worst of the survivors to carve out a piece of the pie.

There are some big questions that the movie (for obvious reasons) left unanswered.

  • Which countries bore the brunt of the alien attack? Nations that suffered little damage will have an advantage at least initially. If, for example, North Korea was largely untouched, but China suffered the same kind of damage that the U.S. did, the Koreans might "bite the hand" so to speak. Even if that does happen, nations that had strong math/science educational systems will find themselves better able to exploit the tech that they do acquire (this is NOT good news for the U.S. as things currently stand).
  • How strong is "anti-alien" paranoia? This might, plausibly, lead to a strong "world government." And the resulting "strike-back" at rogue states that "seized the moment" would be shockingly effective.

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    The aliens were telepathic - so they might be able to set them selves up as overlords in primitive backwaters - 'the alien God is speaking to me in my head'.
    Telepathy might be the gene of the future of private biotech. Someone will have a brain in a jar for sale to the corporate psicorp of tomorrow.

    If I recall "Europe and our allies got taken out first..."

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    1992: Gulf War Fighter Pilot Veteran Whitmore is elected US President.

    1996
    July 2: Alien UFO over Moscow. Yeltsin declares Final round of Russian Elections set for July 3 canceled indefinatly due to Aliens.
    July 5: Dolly the sheep is born in Scotland.
    July 12: Hurricane Bertha makes landfall in North Carolina adding to the destruction.


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    I loved that movie- since if you ever really looked at the map they had of all the countries attacked- CANADA wasn't touched. Since that means our infrastructure would still be intact, that would make US the new power in North America. But hey- we're Canadian. Of course we'd help the USA rebuild. Thats just how we roll, after all...


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    At the very end of the movie you can see a downed alien baseship crashed in Sydney Harbour. The Royal Australian Air Force, while the largest and most advanced in S.E Asia/ Oceania is nothing compared to the Chinese, Japanese or US air forces.

    I am guessing we had some help, probably from Indonesia, Malaysia, the Kiwi's for sure (but they don't have much).

    The Australian army would have that thing dismantled and put to use straight away. Ask anybody that served with us in any war if we could nick it and use it we would.

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    The problem I have with Aliens invading us for our resources movies is - there is more water and minerals available in space than earth and if you have the level of tech that allows you to travel that easy in space you can gather that with no problems....

    The only thing that is unique to earth is our DNA and organics.... I forget the name of the terrible movie with Turk from Scrubs in but the aliens are all about harvesting us (for brains) to power their war machines.

    If we ever get invaded its going to be because we pose a threat or they want our organic life.

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    I wonder that it's really so implausible.

    We have the tech to man a mission to Mars, but we can't deliver potable water to the poorest places on the planet.

    I'm writing this post on a MacBook Air that 90% of the people I meet on any given day couldn't begin to describe the general technical workings involved in translating keystroke to screen to Paizo message board.

    Maybe a better analogy: there're probably thousands of years of non-renewable energy resource untapped in the arctic and below the tundras. Despite being able to man a mission to another planet 20 light minutes away, we can't figure out how to actually get at any of that energy right under our feet.

    It may ultimately prove to be easier to transport He3 from the moon than to sup oil from the Arctic Ocean floor.

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    Next movie premise: More aliens show up or just ongoing mop up?


    The 8th Dwarf wrote:

    The problem I have with Aliens invading us for our resources movies is - there is more water and minerals available in space than earth and if you have the level of tech that allows you to travel that easy in space you can gather that with no problems....

    The only thing that is unique to earth is our DNA and organics.... I forget the name of the terrible movie with Turk from Scrubs in but the aliens are all about harvesting us (for brains) to power their war machines.

    If we ever get invaded its going to be because we pose a threat or they want our organic life.

    Just don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing them.

    Take k'zinti from N-space.

    What could we possibly have that k'zinti want?
    They don't work like that. They are tiger people, and they like to hunt us for sport.
    They don't necessarily even have to be motivated by the acquisition of "stuff" or curiosity about the universe like we bald monkeys are.

    Or, taking the "stuff" angle, earth has some pretty primo real estate if you can just get rid of the vermin.


    The 8th Dwarf wrote:

    At the very end of the movie you can see a downed alien baseship crashed in Sydney Harbour...

    The Australian army would have that thing dismantled and put to use straight away. Ask anybody that served with us in any war if we could nick it and use it we would.

    Ah, that explains:

    1999: The IASA launches the space shuttle, Collaroy, carrying the Farscape One module as its payload. Farscape One and her pilot, Commander John Crichton, mysteriously disappear during the maiden test flight.

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    What was the motivation of the last lot of Aliens?

  • They were Swarming?
  • Looking to pollinate your Brains?
  • Kicking over your sandcastle?
  • Invading to police, Tax, and govern your lawless third world Backwater?
  • Exterminate your Religious cult?

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