| grandwaltz |
I understand this may have been answered previously but I cant seem to find and ruling on it one way or another. A witch prepares spells the same as a wizard. A wizard using the amulet can prepare extra spells per day as per the spell "mnemonic enhancer" a wizard only spell. But a bonded item witch with a necklace may cast as of 8th lv mnemonic enhancer. Sooooo..... can my witch use said necklace? Prefer a society ruling on this if possible.
| Robert A Matthews |
Tough to say. On the surface, it looks like a no as it says "It allows a wizard to prepare an additional 3 levels of spells per day.". Maybe they intended it to work with anyone who has an arcane bond, maybe they didn't. ARG wasn't out when this archetype came out. However, the sorcerer has access to arcane bond from the CRB, but in APG they chose to use the wording that it's for a Wizard's bonded object. The archetypes/class features that grant access to it though, say they gain an arcane bond as a wizard of their level.
Arcane Bond (Su): At 1st level, you gain an arcane bond, as a wizard equal to your sorcerer level.
At 5th level, an arcane duelist gains the arcane bond ability as a wizard, using a weapon as his bonded item.The witch's Arcane Bond is worded differently though:
At 1st level, a bonded witch gains a bonded item instead of a familiar. This bonded item is similar to a wizard's arcane bond bonded item, and follows all the rules of such an item with the following exceptions.
It looks like you could make a case for either way. You could say that since your class feature says it follows the rules for a wizard's arcane bond, then it works. You could also say that the item specifically calls out that it lets a Wizard prepare extra spells.
Akinra
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Bonded Item (Sp): At 1st level, a bonded witch gains
a bonded item instead of a familiar. This bonded item
is similar to a wizard’s arcane bond bonded item (Core
Rulebook 78), and follows all the rules of such an item with
the following exceptions.
A bonded witch’s bonded item serves as a vessel for her
spells and a conduit for communication with her patron.
A bonded witch must commune with her bonded item
each day to prepare her spells. The bonded item stores
all of the spells that the bonded witch knows, and the
bonded witch cannot prepare spells that are not stored
within it. A bonded witch starts with the same number of
spells and gains new spells the same way as a witch, and
can even add spells by learning them from scrolls in the
same way (Advanced Player’s Guide 68), but a bonded witch
cannot learn spells from another bonded item.
Since a bonded witch does not have a spellbook,
starting at 2nd level, a bonded witch’s bonded item can
be used once per day to cast a spell dependent on the type
of bonded object chosen by the bonded witch. The spell
is treated like any other spell cast by the bonded witch,
including its casting time, duration, and other effects
dependent of the bonded witch’s level. This spell cannot
be further modified by metamagic feats or any other
ability. As the bonded witch gains levels, the bonded item
gains new spells that the bonded witch can cast in this
way. She can cast any one of these spells once per day
using her bonded object, but gains greater flexibility in
what spells she can cast, and gains more powerful spells
as she gains new levels. The bonded item spells associated
with each item type are as follows.
Amulet: 2nd—stonefist (Advanced Player’s Guide 247); 4th—
bear’s endurance; 6th—burst of speed (Ultimate Combat 225);
8th—mnemonic enhancer; 10th—stoneskin; 12th—monstrous
physique IV (Ultimate Magic 229); 14th—firebrand (Advanced
Player’s Guide 222); 16th—iron body; 18th—overwhelming
presence (Ultimate Magic 230).
...
This ability replaces the witch’s familiar class feature.
Functions as per wizard except, no exception prohibiting, so I would say yes.
LazarX
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I understand this may have been answered previously but I cant seem to find and ruling on it one way or another. A witch prepares spells the same as a wizard.
Actually technically speaking... she doesn't. A wizard prepares spells by studying a book. A witch does so by communing with a creature. In a way, she's more like a cleric in how she acquires her spells.
The Amulet of spell mastery states This platinum locket only has power when used as a wizard’s bonded object. So by text you are out of luck. On the other hand, your GM may allow a variance
| MC Templar |
Functions as per wizard except, no exception prohibiting, so I would say yes.
I would agree with this interpretation, the witch is treated as a wizard for the purposes of the item except where noted, so, as a GM I would say you shouldn't look for the word "wizard" in a description and say "sorry, you're a witch"
LazarX
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Akinra wrote:Functions as per wizard except, no exception prohibiting, so I would say yes.I would agree with this interpretation, the witch is treated as a wizard for the purposes of the item except where noted, so, as a GM I would say you shouldn't look for the word "wizard" in a description and say "sorry, you're a witch"
The item you're describing is a general witch's item bond. The Amulet of Spell Mastery is a specific item and it's specific items trump that of your general principle. Like I said, a GM can grant a variance on this but a GM is just as justified, in fact even more so in saying "I'm sorry you are a witch, and the Amulet you're thinking of only works for wizards."
| Ximen Bao |
MC Templar wrote:The item you're describing is a general witch's item bond. The Amulet of Spell Mastery is a specific item and it's specific items trump that of your general principle. Like I said, a GM can grant a variance on this but a GM is just as justified, in fact even more so in saying "I'm sorry you are a witch, and the Amulet you're thinking of only works for wizards."Akinra wrote:Functions as per wizard except, no exception prohibiting, so I would say yes.I would agree with this interpretation, the witch is treated as a wizard for the purposes of the item except where noted, so, as a GM I would say you shouldn't look for the word "wizard" in a description and say "sorry, you're a witch"
It item says it has power when used as a wizard's bonded object.
The half-elf witch functions as a wizard for the purposes of the bonded object ability.
Therefore the item works for the witch.
I don't see where you see a case of specific trumping general.