I've become interested in trying to create an unarmed, or at least no weapon, oracle and was hoping for a little advice. I'm planning to go elven Ancient Lorekeeper and using polymorph spells for my combat prowess, starting around level 8 (6 if I take alter self and go with a Trog or something similar). Combining that with spells like frostbite I should have pretty solid damage potential and still good BAB with forms like the charda granting 5 attacks a round. I'd prefer to deliver the spells through a high crit weapon but short of going level 6 Magus I don't think that is possible.
For my level 1 stats, on a 20 pnt build, I'm looking at:
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Still leaves 2 points I'm not sure where I'll put (as you see I'm not going for a min/max approach). I'm planning to take the nature oracle Mystery and nature's whispers for the AC boost. I had considered taking the Lame curse and lowering my dex to 7 (base, 9 modified) and taking str to 16 but not sure I want to go that route.
So does anyone have any advice on anything that can be added or done differently for this type of character? I had considered a 1 level monk dip for their improved unarmed combat that allows using body parts other than hands/feet I just wasn't certain how that would play with natural attacks.
What books are available?
What Races are available?
Lets go with standard PFS rules to keep it as simple as possible.
You can get improved unarmed combat without going monk, and you can still use other body parts. I do suggest you try to improve your constitution if you plan to be in melee primarily.
Oh, can anyone with improved unarmed use other body parts? That is very good to know, I thought that was something specific to monk since that is the only place I recall having seen it. I believe I read somewhere that you still take the -5 penalty on natural attacks when using unarmed attacks. If that's true not sure I really care about it anyway.
The only problem with raising con is that it gets very expensive to raise it much more on an elf. I was planning to just go as high of AC as I could and try to use that to keep me alive. Maybe add something like ablative barrier to help mitigate.
Going the dex route, and nabbing an Agile AoMF might work well.
Ancestor works well, and at 11th you will be hitting at full BAB with Spirit of the Warrior.
Go Azata-Blooded Aasimar, and pump a revelation through the racial Favored class bonus.
Blood of Heroes is a good choice to pump, and when you can add the Courageous enchantment to your AoMF, you will pumped pretty big.
You could choose to pump Spirit of the Warrior, but will not see the boon until 11th, but your BAB will actually be higher than you level when it comes.
If you just want the archetype, you can be half-elf instead of full blooded to make the con less expensive.
Oh, thank you Imbicatus!! I had not realized that half elves could take elven archtypes. I knew they could take feats and stuff, just didn't realize it extended that far!
So as a half-elf I could pull:
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I appreciate your input Blackbloodtroll but I am rather insistent on having the shapeshift forms, and the only way I know of for getting that as an Oracle is through the archtype. Is there a way that an Aasimir oracle could get those spells? I am also pretty interested in the Nature mystery for nature's whispers.
Half-Elves cannot take Elf only racial archetypes.
This has been answered in FAQ, and is explicitly disallowed in PFS.
Ahhh, so back to elf we go!
Is Elf a must?
Is this actually for PFS?
This is a concept that I would like to use in PFS, but it's not actually FOR anything as of yet.
The elf is a must just for the ancient lorekeeper. I want to make him a kind of shapeshifter, even if he does do it through spells. And I want to combine those forms with spells like Frostbite. I really want to see if I can make it competitive with other damage classes and still match what I would like to play.
How do you feel about the Wrecker curse?
Not sure what "standard" PFS rules are, but it's PFS-legal from Blood of Fiends book.
I'm not sure how it would help the build?
Well since you're being unarmed, it might help with by providing some cool options like breaking objects/sunder.
Oh yes. A Seeker Oracle with the Wrecker Curse would be awesome.
You can mock any Rogue, by walking up to any Trap, and disabling it, just by touch. No tools.
blackbloodtroll wrote: Oh yes. A Seeker Oracle with the Wrecker Curse would be awesome.
You can mock any Rogue, by walking up to any Trap, and disabling it, just by touch. No tools.
I really want to do this with a Halfling and take Halfling Jinx. You are just so damn unlucky things break when you touch them.
If you're willing to abandon the Nature mystery for the AC boost, Dark Tapestry mystery gives you a shapeshifting revelation (Many Forms). Which could save on spell slots and let you choose a different race. The Aasimar trick mentioned above could boost Many Forms instead for you.
Comparing quickly, ancient lorekeeper would get beast shape 1 at level 8.
Dark Tapestry Many Forms revelation gives it at level 7.
Aasimar DT oracle would get it at level... 5?
(Maths and me aren't working right now for some reason)
Following that though, Aasimar DT oracle would get a greater polymorph ability by level 10 or something, which is quite ridiculous. Usable in 1-minute increments for changing form almost at will.
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