Witchfire ranged attack vs ranged touch..errata needed


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Relevant section of Witchfire stats:

CE Medium undead (incorporeal)

OFFENSE
Speed fly 50 ft. (perfect)
Melee incorporeal touch +13 (8d6 fire plus witchflame)
Ranged witchflame bolt +13 (8d6 fire plus witchflame)
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 9th; concentration +16)
At will—dancing lights, disguise self, ghost sound (DC 17), invisibility, pyrotechnics (DC 19), ray of enfeeblement (DC 18)

Incorporeal per the PRD wrote:
An incorporeal creature's attacks pass through (ignore) natural armor, armor, and shields, although deflection bonuses and force effects (such as mage armor) work normally against it.

That quote is why incorporeal creatures attack against touch AC. Being a ranged attack does not make the witchflame bolt an exception.

If it has language such "Unlike an incorporeal creature's normal attacks..." then it could be viewed as a rules exception, and not an error.

FAQ please. :)


Unless the witchbolt is a manifested corporeal bolt of flame, instead of an incorporeal bit of flaming ectoplasm.


Looks like a flaming hand of fiery doom. Even a corporeal bolt of flame is still a ranged touch attack.

So I agree with it needing the errata of "ranged incorporeal touch witchflame bolt". Until then, if it ever comes up at my table, this little inferno will do normal incorporeal ranged attacks.

Sovereign Court

does the witchfire has a range or something ? apparently not...

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

Tommaso Gollini wrote:
does the witchfire has a range or something ? apparently not...

Range is 60 ft., given in the text of the ability:

Witchfire

Sovereign Court

thanks !

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