Acid Pit Spell and fumes


Rules Questions


Hello everyone.

The general environmental rules about acid state, that standing adjacent to a large body of acid calls for a DC 13 Fort safe or the loss of 1 point of Con.

So per RAW the spell should generate enough fumes to justify the Fort safe from any trapped creature.

As a fun side note, total emersion into acid (like falling 30ft into a pool of acid over 3ft deep) calls for 10d6 damage, but I think we can safely assume, that this was never intended to be part of the spell.

So back to topic: when you fall down, are you in danger of loosing con?

Thanks in advance and happy gaming.


To answer from RAW, the spell doesn't say it has those effects, so it doesn't. But the general rule does say acid has that effect, and the spell doesn't explicitly override the general rule, so it does.

It doesn't, and it does.

Conflict.

DM's choice.

When I doubt, I tend to assume that the spell's author balanced the spell exactly as written and that he didn't even consider outlying rules. In this case, I bet the author never even thought about the fumes (if he had, then in due diligence, he very much really should have mentioned that, either for or against, in the spell description).

Given that he almost certainly did not consider this, I then assume the outlying rules don't apply. Maybe this magical acid is less fumey than normal chemical acids. Or whatever.

The only time I would rule otherwise is if I consider the spell to be clearly underpowered for the level it was assigned, in which case, I then include the outlying rules just to make the spell useful to someone who wants to prepare it.


Good thinking, Blake. The spell in question is already a very good one, so it probably doesn't need any buff. With a game as complex as this here the more esoteric rules are bound to be forgotten, it was just coincidend that I happened about them myself ^^

I think I will mention this as a funny sidenote when I cast the spell tonight and then handwave it away with a good laugh, maybe even mentioning the little titbit about total immersion. THAT would be totally broken for this spell level and is a good example of an effect that would be totally out of league then anything else available and so good that anyone with half a brain would cast is exclusively.

Good night and happy gaming everyone.

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