New Options, Changes?


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So we just got our copy of Champions of Purity, and I was stoked to read it. Going through, I found a trait, Weapon of Peace, that would be PERFECT for my wife's Paladin. Trouble is, she HAS played it as a 2nd level character.

Now, before I get the automatic response of, "Too Late" please let me explain.

The character concept is of a redeemer, a true sword of justice and mercy allowing those who have done wrong to be captured and brought to justice having a chance to repent and change their ways. So the character was intended to be able to use non-lethal damage.

Before she leveled the character up to level 2 to play locally, we were trying to find a trait or feat that would allow making attacks with a sword and doing non-lethal damage. We found one in Blood of Angels, but found out that the numerical variant traits are NOT PFS legal, but no one we spoke to could provide an alternative, nor could we find one. So she took a Racial trait and a Faith trait instead.

In game play, she has taken the -4 penalty in nearly every combat in order to do the Non-Lethal damage except when fighting undead or evil outsiders. Also, whenever she has dropped a standard foe, she takes a round to try to stabilize them so they can be taken back and turned over to the authorities.

So, now that new rules have been released, I was wondering if restrictive exceptions could be made. Or, would she have to re-boot the character? Spend the feat to get the Extra Traits Feat? Or, is there another feat out there that we have missed that would reduce the penalty for using lethal weapons for Non-lethal damage?

Thanks for any help!


Not helpful at this point I don't believe, but this one and can be used in combination with the Enforcer feat to do something really awesome. Virtuous creed, also in faiths of purity, is a feat that can gets rid of the -4 and coincidentally is all about making sure they survive.

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I sympathize completely, as I have been in the same situation, when new material came out that perfectly suited my character's style. Unfortunately, you're not allowed a rebuild to accommodate new material. To get what you would like, you can take the extra traits feat as a 3rd level character, or you can build a new PC as a "clone" of the current one.

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There are several ways to do nonlethal without the -4, as mentioned above, Virtuous Creed (Mercy) may be a good choice, however there is also the Merciful enchantment from ultimate equipment for weapons.

So you could put +1 and Merciful on her sword, and deal more damage when doing nonlethal, without the -4 to hit. Note that you'd need 27 fame before you can get Merciful on a +1 sword, meaning you'd be level 5 before you could get Merciful, but you can get Virtuous Creed (Mercy) at level 3.

If the Character worships Sarenrae, there was a trait you could have taken, the one linked above, but just as it's too late to take the trait in Champions of Purity without extra traits, it's similarly too late to take Blade of Mercy.

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In almost all cases in the past, new options did not open up a do over. I do understand wanting to pick it up now, but it would probably not be the best move for the campaign if they were to change that decision.

That said, your wife may find some of the other suggestions open up even more opportunities for her character. Dylos had excellent suggestions, though I'm particularly fond of extra traits feat. In some ways, thee organic build choices can be more fun, providing quirks to a character that may not have been imagined if re-doing from scratch.

No matter what she decides, I hope she enjoys her paladin.

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Thanks for the help folks! I appreciate the advice. We looked at the options presented and had not seen those before. She was originally thinking that she would have the Mercy benefit to her sword after 5th level via the Paladin ability, but that is only once per day. So, spending the feat on the extra traits to get Blade of Mercy would be worth it to her. Besides, I'm always looking for an excuse to get more stuff and that Players Guide to Legacy of Fire might be interesting for other things as well.

Thanks again!

Robert

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Since you are only at second level, you could start all over again a brand new character and retire the current one, or, save it and redirect it into a different concept character at a later date.

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