Alignment issues


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1/5

Soon enough, I'll be a recognized pain in the donkey with all my questions. Then, the world!

Anyway. Two points here. Is it just me, or are some scenarios not meant for some alignments? For example, one of the season 4 scenarios calls for the players to play as Aspis Consortium members to sabotage their relations with a third group. I've got players who love playing LG Paladins; who very well may balk at all the skullduggery. It's one thing where you need to sneak around for a Faction-specific sidequest, but another when you -have- to for the main scenario quest.

Secondly. Evil characters. Okay, so I understand that a lot of players take evil to mean "I can kill anyone and do whatever I want". Which, y'know, is fine for CE. Not so much for LE. Plus, there's the specific mention of a player acting "heinously evil" (not the exact words, but close enough) which is grounds for removal from the table. Still with me? I'm going somewhere with this.

Cheliax. Mostly devil-binders, mostly LE. (Note the keyword mostly, thanks.) You can work for the Cheliax faction. You can be from Cheliax. So, why can't you be LE? Playing correctly, you'll still cooperate (basic Pathfinder tenants, after all), plus getting orders direct from your superior. Lawful. And once again, if someone makes a LE character and acts like a royal jerk, well. Kick from the table. But that shouldn't penalize players who can play those of dubious alignments well. At the least, remove Cheliax as a Faction, because with that there, it kinda feels like a slap in the face.

Silver Crusade 4/5

I just ran across a season 0 scenario that has the same issue as your first question, above. I think I'm ok with those types of scenarios existing, but they should come with warning labels, so people know not to play a paladin in them.

But I've played more than half of the PFS scenarios and from what I remember, there are very few examples of such blatantly un-paladin-like behavior required of Pathfinders.

Second, you're not allowed to be blatantly evil, but there are a lot of neutral-borderline-evil characters out there. This includes several people I know with worshipers of evil gods, including Asmodeus worshipers from Cheliax.

Kinda splitting hairs, but playing an evil character the way you described is pretty much allowed, and the "no evil alignment" rule keeps the blatant jerks from running wild.

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Paul Barczik wrote:


Cheliax. Mostly devil-binders, mostly LE. (Note the keyword mostly, thanks.) You can work for the Cheliax faction. You can be from Cheliax. So, why can't you be LE? Playing correctly, you'll still cooperate (basic Pathfinder tenants, after all), plus getting orders direct from your superior. Lawful. And once again, if someone makes a LE character and acts like a royal jerk, well. Kick from the table. But that shouldn't penalize players who can play those of dubious alignments well. At the least, remove Cheliax as a Faction, because with that there, it kinda feels like a slap in the face.

Again with the misconceptions.

Andoran is the evilest faction in the Society. Cheliax is the good guys. At least based on what the various factions are asked to do over the seasons.

1/5

Yes, there are certain missions that paladins and other squeaky-clean types are going to struggle with (and I say this as the player of a paladin, among my other characters). They're not in the majority, but they are out there, and it's probably important for players to know that before they sit down at a table with the intent to play a certain character.


I know there are several missions that aren't good for someone honest and good. There are also faction missions. Even working for silver crusade you may end up with an Andoran faction mission if you do one of the older seasons. Ideally work for the society/faction doesn't count against you, which helps, but it does put in an odd position if you really want to be a good guy though. I like being the good guy, but I know pathfinders aren't always good guys.

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