Here's the deal:
A Bard who takes the feat Eldritch Bloodline (by choosing Draconic Bloodline) at 3rd or 5th level, presumably having the prerequisite Skill Focus (Perception) at 1st or 3rd level, and then, at 6th level, continues to Dragon Disciple.
So question is, does the combination above work?
Technically I don't see why not. But on the other hand, I can see that some people might disagree. To cover up my claim that it does work, here's the prerequisities that do, indeed, meet the expectations:
- A bard is spontaneous arcane spellcaster - Check!
- A level 5 bard can easily get 5 ranks in Knowledge Arcana - Check!
- If not gained through racial bonus languages due to sufficiently high intelligence, a bard can take ranks in Linguistics, and here it is: Languages: Draconic - Check!
- And now for the trickiest part: A character like this doesn't technically have sorcerer levels, but due to Eldritch Heritage feat, his "sorcerer level" is equal to his character level -2, and because of that, he might be compelled to choose the same draconic type as Dragon Disciple as he chose for Eldritch Heritage.
I admit this is on a bit fragile ground, but wouldn't Blood of Dragons stack with the levels of Eldritch Bloodline levels? (and once high enough level for taking Greater Eldritch Heritage, evening out the gap. Eventually making the character more powerful in regards to several draconic bloodline powers) NOTE! No,I'm not saying that this combination would get the character's effective sorcerer level above 20.
Let us pretend that this works out, and if (or when) it does, how would Blood of Dragons and Eldritch Bloodline (Draconic) work together?
This is one of the numerous wacky ideas I got in a whim, and I'm not sure if this one in particular has been discussed elsewhere. Point me to right direction if yes, otherwise, let's have a creative and polite discussion, and as little of flaming as possible, thank you :)
I don't think Blood of Dragons stacks with Eldritch Heritage. EH gives the first-level power of the bloodline, not the bloodline itself. It would give you a lot of rounds for your claws, though.
Re-reading EH, though, you can't take it for a bloodline you already have. Technically, you didn't have the bloodline when you took the feat, you got the bloodline later on. What would happen?
If I wanted to make a claw based fighter I'd actually prefer if they didn't stack. As mentioned its give lots and lots of rounds of claws.
I don't think Blood of Dragons stacks with Eldritch Heritage. EH gives the first-level power of the bloodline, not the bloodline itself. It would give you a lot of rounds for your claws, though.
Re-reading EH, though, you can't take it for a bloodline you already have. Technically, you didn't have the bloodline when you took the feat, you got the bloodline later on. What would happen?
The most probable results?
When calculating effects of abilities gained through Eldritch Heritage feats the bard uses his character level -2 (or full character level in case of Improved/Greater Eldritch Heritage) or his dragon disciple levels (which changes nothing in case of regular draconic bloodline but could increase damage inflicted in case of linnorm bloodline) [or possibly a sum of character level-2 plus dragon disciple levels]. When calculating all effects of remaining draconic bloodline abilities (i.e. those gained through dragon disciple and not feats) he uses his dragon disciple levels.
I can agree on both Drejk's and Wondering GM's points of view.
Ofcourse, one might see that, for example breath weapon uses per day and wings, when taken through feats, (if the bard takes 9 or 10 levels of DD, that is) character would get the additional use for breath weapon, or greater flight speed with wings. Nothing solid, but that's one possibility.
Or, eventually character level as sorcerer level, due to Improved/Greater EH feats, would not stack, but rather overlap some of the dragon disciple originated bloodline powers, making them somewhat obsolete, and indeed, separate from the character's "higher sorcerer level".
Which would technically mean that the character had two separate breath weapons, weaker from dragon disciple once per day, and one much stronger from EH once per day. And also grant the character two separate pools for Claw rounds per day; weaker one from DD and stronger one from EH.
All this might cause a lot of headache to both player and GM, so I see two options for GM to simplify this: Either EH feats & sorcerer levels stack but not overlap for DD levels, OR GM could overrule this as impossible and either not let the player advancing as Dragon Disciple, or instead have him retrain the feats already chosen.