Ulmaxes
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Hi! I've tried to search around for the answer to this one, but haven't seen anyone give a very definitive ruling beyond speculation and silent approval.
The Pistolero Gunslinger gets the Pistol Training ability:
"Starting at 5th level, a pistolero increases her skill with one-handed firearms. She gains a bonus on damage rolls equal to her Dexterity modifier, and when she misfires with a one-handed firearm, the misfire value increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the bonus on damage rolls increases by +1. At 13th level, a pistolero never misfires with a one-handed firearm."
This does NOT say anything, Errata or otherwise, about replacing Gun Training...
"Starting at 5th level, a gunslinger can select one specific type of firearm (such as an axe musket, blunderbuss, musket, or pistol). She gains a bonus equal to her Dexterity modifier on damage rolls when firing that type of firearm. Furthermore, when she misfires with that type of firearm, the misfire value of that firearm increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the gunslinger picks up another type of firearm, gaining these bonuses for those types as well."
Do these indeed stack? Does my Pistolero get to add his Dex modifier twice on each hit?
(on Hero Lab they aren't stacking...which could simply be an oversight, but it's the one thing that makes me want to double-check it before I indeed write it off as just a fault in the program).
| Ansel Krulwich |
There's nothing official that I know of but it's pretty much assumed that Pistol Training does replace Gun Training. Mostly this gets asked because someone wants to build a Mysterious Stranger/Pistolero which, while it would be awesome, is likely an illegal combination.
Until then, feel free to ask your GM to allow it and expect it to not fly at all in PFS.
Ulmaxes
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Yeah. It does seem pretty clear that it should. It's just strange that there's no Errata about it.
Most of my forum-searching came across similar build questions (Mys Str/Pistolero combo). This actually isn't what I was doing (I fully support the view that those two don't mix), but still good to know nonetheless.
I mean, the very idea of adding double Dex is insane. The only justification I could give for it would be that you're forever limited to smaller firearms (when the 2-handers can build up to having free reloads anyway), but that doesn't really compare, haha.
I'll keep an eye on it regardless. Thanks.
Nefreet
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The official response is actually "No response necessary".
Take a careful look at Musket Master. It doesn't say that Musket Training replaces Gun Training either. It says, "replaces Firearm Training", of which there is no such thing. Obviously the intent with both the Musket Master and Pistolero is that Gun Training gets replaced.