Stat block for a Large Elk?


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In Bestiary 3, the description for Elk (Herd Animal) notes that some Elk are large sized and have 3 HD. My current character and his companions are riding combat trained Elk, which of course must be large to serve as mounts for medium creatures. We haven't taken them into combat yet, but I wanted to make sure I've modified the base stat block correctly before we do so.

To account for increasing them to large size, should I use the stat adjustment listed for Monster Advancement (Bestiary 1, Appendix 2, Table 1-3)? That is, +8 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +5 Constitution, and +2 Natural Armor?

Since the Elk is now at 3 HD, it also gets an extra feat, correct?

Because it is an animal...

  • BAB is at 3/4 progression, so it should now have 2 BAB.
  • Good Fort/Reflex saves, so base saves should be 3 Fort/Reflex, 0 Will

Elk's hooves are listed as 1d3, though the Bestiary says that a Medium Hoof attack should be 1d4. Should I advance it to 1d4, which would be one step higher than what they currently are, or 1d6, which is what is listed for a large creature?

Does that all look correct? Anything else I'm missing?

Sczarni

Here are two Large Paizo Elks.

Kingmaker: Stolen Land:
River Elk CR 2
XP 600
N Large animal
Init +2; Senses low-light vision; Perception +8
Defe nse
AC 13, touch 11, flat-footed 11 (+2 Dex, +2 natural, –1 size)
hp 25 (3d8+12)
Fort +7, Ref +7, Will +3
Offense
Speed 50 ft., swim 30 ft.
Melee gore +4 (1d8+3) or
2 hooves –1 (1d6+1)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Statistics
Str 17, Dex 15, Con 18, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 6
Base Atk +2; CMB +6; CMD 18 (22 vs. trip)
Feats Endurance, Lightning Reflexes, RunB
Skills Perception +8, Swim +11
Ecolo gy
Environment cold or temperate plains
Organization solitary, pair, or herd (3–50)
Treasure none

Megaloceros CR 4
XP 1,200
N Large animal
Init +2; Senses low-light vision; Perception +9
Defe nse
AC 16, touch 11, flat-footed 14 (+2 Dex, +5 natural, –1 size)
hp 34 (4d8+16)
Fort +8, Ref +8, Will +3
Offense
Speed 50 ft.
Melee gore +7 (2d6+5) or
2 hooves +2 (1d6+2)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Special Attacks powerful charge (4d6+7)
Statistics
Str 20, Dex 15, Con 18, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 5
Base Atk +3; CMB +9; CMD 21 (25 vs. trip)
Feats Endurance, Lightning Reflexes, RunB
Skills Perception +9
Ecolo gy
Environment cold or temperate plains
Organization solitary, pair, or herd (3–50)
Treasure none

At the bottom of the herd animal article, there's mention of the River Elk that I've provided stats for.
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary3/herdAnimal.html
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/additionalMonsters/megafauna.html

It looks as though the chosen feat is Endurance.

Sczarni

ZZTRaider wrote:
Good Fort/Reflex saves, so base saves should be 3 Fort/Reflex, 0 Will

Base would be Fort +3 / Reflex +3 / Will +1

ZZTRaider wrote:
Elk's hooves are listed as 1d3, though the Bestiary says that a Medium Hoof attack should be 1d4. Should I advance it to 1d4, which would be one step higher than what they currently are, or 1d6, which is what is listed for a large creature?

That's odd. I'd go with 1d6. The two examples above each list 1d6 as well. The 1d3 must have been missed in editing.

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