Can a druid wildshape into a magmin?


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My line of reasoning is fairly straightforward:

A druid can wildshape into a small elemental
A magmin is explictly listed as a small creature of elemental subtype


Ask your DM. Its vague.

Grand Lodge

The limitations of the elemental wildshape are defined by which Elemental Body spell you are emulating.


LazarX wrote:
The limitations of the elemental wildshape are defined by which Elemental Body spell you are emulating.

All Elemental Body spells include the ability to transform into a "Small" "fire" "elemental".

Sovereign Court

The spells that wild shape emulates all list exactly what happens when you change shape.

So for a small fire elemental you get "a +2 size bonus to your Dexterity and a +2 natural armor bonus. You gain darkvision 60 feet, resist fire 20, vulnerability to cold, and the burn ability."

So what is it exactly that your trying to do?

Dark Archive

That strikes me as a misreading of the spell elemental body.

You have the choice of a small fire elemental, small water elemental, small air elemental, or small earth elemental. All four of those are explicitly in the Bestiary.


Morgen wrote:

The spells that wild shape emulates all list exactly what happens when you change shape.

So for a small fire elemental you get "a +2 size bonus to your Dexterity and a +2 natural armor bonus. You gain darkvision 60 feet, resist fire 20, vulnerability to cold, and the burn ability."

So what is it exactly that your trying to do?

Turn into a magmin. Possibly because I want to get free drinks at "magmin's night" at the local pub, possibly because the Assassin's Guild is looking for an elf but not for a magmin, possibly because it's Hallowe'en and the costume shop ran out of false wizard beards.

Dark Archive

There is no spell released by Paizo that allows this. Take it up with your GM to create one using the Spell Creation rules.

Sovereign Court

Well at best you'd only get a +10 on your disguise check to look like a magmin from wild shaping into a small fire elemental. You'll have to talk to your GM if you want to research a transmute into magmin spell as Mergy said.

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