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Looks excellent! Since it's PFS, you should focus on the early levels - I wouldn't pick Saurian Shaman unless you only want to be wildshaping for the last part of your career.
I assume there's a reason your stego can't take tandem trip until 5, so I'd probably pick Toughness at 2 - combined with the armor, you'll be able to send him into dangerous flanking positions without worrying too much. Actually, scratch that - take Toughness at 1 and LAP at 2; you probably won't be able to afford barding for your first or second session, anyway.
If you're not going for medium armor/heavy proficiency on the critter then don't go for light armor proficiency on the critter.
You can use mithril chain shirt barding (cheaper) or mithral kikko barding (expensive/have to wait to get but has an extra +1 ac). They have no armor check penalty, so taking the non proficiency penalty of.. nothing is no big deal. Toughness on a critter is never a bad idea.
You can get the hunting lodge vanity to use survival as a dayjob roll.
If you're going to spend most of your time as a stegosaurus, invest in a second (druid friendly) set of dragonhide breastplate barding for yourself, its WAY cheaper than the wild enchant. Your party members will be happy to help you dress.
foxy-I assume there's a reason your stego can't take tandem trip until 5,
He can't take tandem trip till his int goes up at 4 hit dice and then hits 5 hd to get a feat.
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If you're going to spend most of your time as a stegosaurus, invest in a second (druid friendly) set of dragonhide breastplate barding for yourself, its WAY cheaper than the wild enchant. Your party members will be happy to help you dress.
I do not agree with this part of your statement. Sometimes, and by sometimes I mean frequently, the PFS scenario is not merely some dungeon crawl, but a series of events requiring you to not be a stegosaurus. Getting the barding on takes time, and it's better to be able to just jump right into things. The one thing about Pathfinder that I find unrealistic is the amount of time fights take. Battles are won or lost in less than a minute. You don't have time to change and equip. You need to be equipped when you get to the fight, or more importantly when the fight gets to you
I am worried about the AC not having light armor before level 7.
You can wear masterwork studded leather barding on the cheap in that case, and then upgrade to mithril when you have the cash. Getting the feat to be able to wear (at best) chain armor barding would only get you another 1 ac over that.
I do not agree with this part of your statement. Sometimes, and by sometimes I mean frequently, the PFS scenario is not merely some dungeon crawl, but a series of events requiring you to not be a stegosaurus. Getting the barding on takes time, and it's better to be able to just jump right into things. The one thing about Pathfinder that I find unrealistic is the amount of time fights take. Battles are won or lost in less than a minute. You don't have time to change and equip. You need to be equipped when you get to the fight, or more importantly when the fight gets to you
Wild armor STARTS at (+1 minimum +3 enchant) 16k. You can have 2 +2 suits for half that. you also can't get that till 31 fame around 7-8th level.
I'm not suggesting waiting till the fights starts then putting the armor on. If you go in to talk to someone, either don't bother buying anything or put on your sunday best. When you leave the building dinovolve and get put in your armor. Unless you're the party face you can save a wildshape or two by parking yourself outside (the wild speach feat may be something to consider if you wind up as the party face anyway)
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I was looking at all the permutations of Improved Natural Attack, Animal Growth, and Strong Jaw, and it seems no matter what order you apply them in, you end up with one size increase on the INA table and then a doubling of that.
Mithril barding at no penalty without proficiency smells a little cheesy to me, but I guess if Frodo can wear it under his clothes without any training, you could drape it over a dinosaur, too.
Thoughts about 2 lvl dip in ranger?
Slows down you getting strong jaw, slows down your shapeshifting, and makes steggo 2 hd weaker unless you blow a feat on boon companion. Doesn't seem to be worth it. What are you trying to get out of it?
Also do you know how to resolve the weird progression chart in Strong Jaw? It seems to suggest Stego only does 2d6 at huge and the progression is different than Imp Nat Atk.
Hmmmm... i see what you mean.
The steggo will have 2d8 on its own by the time you're casting strong jaw
Strong jaw
+1 size will go to 4d6 (and top out the chart)
+another size will double to 8d6
Then by improved natural attack it goes to 12d6-which makes sense because in D&D doubling is just adding the base again (4d6 doubled is 8d6. 4d6 doubled twice is 12d6)
Also, if you don't like grunting at your fellow players , consider wild speech as a feat if you have room. It lets you talk in critter form. which is reaaly handy because i think a stegosaurus would be horrible (and horribly destructive) at charades.
That's not entirely correct. 4d6 becomes 6d6, not 8d6. So it's 2d8 -> either 3d8 or 4d6 (depending which table you follow) -> 6d6 -> 8d6 -> 12d6.
Pincers, Tail Slap: --->1---> 1d2--->--->1d3--->1d4--->1d6--->1d8--->2d6--->2d8---&g t;4d6 B Secondary
Gore 2d8-->4d6 P Primary
Bite 2d8-->4d6
So taking improved natural attack and casting strong jaw brings you from 2d8 to 8d6. To get to 12d6 you need another size increase (animal growth, anyone?).
All of the 2d8 natural attacks go from 2d8 4d6 and then off the chart. Once you go off the chart you double. I don't see a 6d6 step there or how you're getting to it.
I was talking about Strong Jaw on me :).
Huge Stego starts at 4d6. I think Soupturtle is right that if you are already at the top of the chart you just double once (it says instead), not twice. That makes it line up with the Imp Nat Atk chart.
Based on Imp Nat Atk:
4d6->6d6->8d6->12d6If it works like you describe then Strong Jaw on me would be:
4d6->8d6->16d6 then applying Imp Nat Atk...I dont even know 32d6? hahaDoubling twice doesnt agree with Imp Nat Atk at all.
No. Again, doubling in 3.5/pathfinder doesn't work like that.
If you charge with a lance (double damage) using spirited charge (double damage) you don't get quadruple damage, you get triple damage. A pathfinder "doubling" is adding the base again, no matter how many times you do it.
Multiplying Damage: Sometimes you multiply damage by some factor, such as on a critical hit. Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results.
Note: When you multiply damage more than once, each multiplier works off the original, unmultiplied damage. So if you are asked to double the damage twice, the end result is three times the normal damage.
So if we go
4d6 --improved natural attack---> 6d6 ---> double once 12d6--> "double" twice -->18d6
Keep in mind that you only have one size of steggosaurus to turn into.
