Hangman Tree vine stats

[Marios]

Hi!

My party is about to fight some Hangman Trees and it's quite certain that the PCs will try to cut the vines grabbing them.

I think I should use the sunder rules for this, but what stats (hardness, hp)should I use for the vines?

Any other suggestions as to how should I deal with this situation?

[Matthew Downie]

You could use a (huge) quarterstaff as a basis, perhaps with +5 hardness to allow for the fact that it's alive and therefore springier than dry dead wood
Then again, if one of your PCs grapples someone, do you allow their target to use the sunder rules to cut off their arms?

[Marios]

Matthew Downie wrote:

Then again, if one of your PCs grapples someone, do you allow their target to use the sunder rules to cut off their arms?

Well, no, not their hands, but if someone was using some kind of polearm to perform the grapple (e.g. a mancatcher) I'd most certainly allow a helper to try and sunder it, wouldn't you?

After all, isn't cutting the vines what every hero in every film does in similar situations? :)

Thanks a lot for your suggestion! I was thinking of something more supple, like a thick rope maybe, but it would be too easy to cut, right?