Mobile Fighter and Whirlwind Attack

[Edinoiz]

The Mobile Fighter archetype gains a class feature at lvl 11: Rapid Attack.

This feature allows you to perform a single move during your full attack action and dole out your attacks at any point during the movement. The only thing is that you must forgo the attack at yor highest BAB.

"The" as in singular. Which means that if you have Haste or a similar effect on yourself it would seem as if you made a normal full attack but with a move within it as well.

Now, how does the Whirlwind Attack feat synergize with the Rapid Attack class feature? Could they prrhaps be used together and then used with Lunge for a truly awesome "Mook Dropper"?

[Kazaan]

This is why I've always read Whirlwind Attack as being a single attack that's delivered against multiple targets. You don't run into this situation when it's parsed that way. But still, Whirlwind reads as follows:

Quote:

Whirlwind Attack:

Benefit: When you use the full-attack action, you can give up your regular attacks and instead make one melee attack at your highest base attack bonus against each opponent within reach. You must make a separate attack roll against each opponent.

You "give up" all your attacks, including "the highest BAB attack" and instead gain one attack to each enemy within reach. Since you don't have a highest bab attack to give up anymore, I'd say you can't do rapid attack.

[Xexyz]

Kazaan wrote:

This is why I've always read Whirlwind Attack as being a single attack that's delivered against multiple targets. You don't run into this situation when it's parsed that way. But still, Whirlwind reads as follows:

Quote:

Whirlwind Attack:

Benefit: When you use the full-attack action, you can give up your regular attacks and instead make one melee attack at your highest base attack bonus against each opponent within reach. You must make a separate attack roll against each opponent.

You "give up" all your attacks, including "the highest BAB attack" and instead gain one attack to each enemy within reach. Since you don't have a highest bab attack to give up anymore, I'd say you can't do rapid attack.

This is how I interpret it to work as well. Both Rapid Attack and Whirlwind require you to give up the same iterative attack, so you can't use them together.

[Edinoiz]

Thank you for clearing that up.

[StreamOfTheSky]

With a Whirlwind Attack, you make a full attack and attack each foe that comes within reach once. Note that you can 5 ft step in the middle of a full attack, so it is entirely possible for more foes to become WWA targets after you started doing it than there were initially.

So, with Rapid Attack, you're required to give up your first attack and can then move while performing the rest of it. You would have to forgo an attack against one of the foes within reach when you start the WWA, and can then move around hacking at any others within reach once apiece.

It is a pretty good "mook dropper," though casters have been able to drop mooks en masse for a while by then and can still do it better than you, even with Lunge. But yes, a nifty trick to expand the fighter's arsenal.