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A great experience so far. Lara is a deep (not too many faceted, but still a deep, human character), the setting is stunning and some vistas are really breathtaking. Voice acting and character design is good too. And story has kept me going so far.
The only thing i have a tiny, tiny beef about is the amount of hurt and pain Lara is going through. It's enough to kill 10 people all around, but she is not much worse for wear (except mentally of course).
As far as the fancy hair gimmick, it looks amazing. It does make my machine stutter on closeups during cutscenes but it (mostly) looks and acts like real, natural hair.
I have an i5 with 3.2ghz on all four cores, 8 gb ram and a geforce gt 570 with 4gigs of ram. Just for reference. The fancy hair can be turned off in the settings of course.


Just finished the game with nice percentage (92%) and No Stone Left Unturned achievement. I really enjoyed Tomb Raider. I have no history with previous Tomb Raider games so this was my first run with Lara Croft. Game worked well, nice story and lots of cool places to explore. Exploring combined with sneaking around made this game perfect for me. Really liked balance between puzzles, sneaking with some enemies and big fight scenes (like one in Shantytown). Also I'm sucker for japanese culture and history (even though there is some mystical elements in the story, I don't know was this the case with previous Tomb Raider games?).

I can recommend this game to all who like things I mentioned above.

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Most tomb raiders have mystical elements to them...for example in Legend, you get excalibur, but with a nice twist. I actually vastly prefer the crystal dynamics games to core design ones.


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After you beat the game, are you free to explore the island? Please be as spoiler free as possible.


Jam412 wrote:
After you beat the game, are you free to explore the island? Please be as spoiler free as possible.

It is possible to go back after finishing the game. I don't know much about as I just finished it. You may go collect items or explore tombs that you didn't find during the game but I don't think there is much else to do. I tried to collect and do all things on the first run so I don't have to explore empty island. Hama or some else can correct me and/or tell more about end-game.

I interested on hearing comments about multiplayer. Is it good or bad?


Here's what Conan thinks of the game.


I jut picked it up, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. All the reviews/videos I've watched have got me hyped.

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You can explore the island after you complete the main story. It will only count for the percentage complete. Also, i managed to upgrade all the weapons and all the skills till the end of the game.

You should be hyped. It's a really good game. And if you have a beast of a computer, turn on Tressfx...i just love the realistic hair.


I want this game... but I just started Dragon Age 2.
Hmmm... maybe I can come back to DA2. I did wait this long to get it.

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Tomb Raider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>>>> Dragon Age 2, which is IMO one of the biggest pieces of **** i've ever wasted money on.


The problem I am seeing is it is to Action Focused. I would have preferred being able to Stealth my way through the game.

But it is better than most of the recent games.


Played it, got 100% on first play through, loved it. Think I'm going to play it again.

You can stealth through a good number of parts in the game cept for scripted events. I used the bow as my primary weapon and its a excellent stealth weapon.

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Detect Magic wrote:
I jut picked it up, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. All the reviews/videos I've watched have got me hyped.

Just started it, so far so good.


Arrghh... This one guy keeps killing me and I have no idea how to stop him.

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I got this on release day and beat it by the end of the first weekend I had it. It's an amazing piece of work. I got 100% completion but am still missing a few of the single-player achievements, including the missable story one, so I'll likely be playing it again on easy difficulty just to pick those up and move on to multi-player play. I am totally stoked for any DLC they may have planned and for the sequel that is inevitably already in the works.


Aranna wrote:
Arrghh... This one guy keeps killing me and I have no idea how to stop him.

Tell about your problem (using spoiler tags to be safe) and someone will be help you. If you hadn't already solved how to beat that guy?


Ok here it is:

Spoiler:
Ok, it's early in the game just past the woods with the wolves and the plane you have to lower by starting fires. You open the gate with mr creepy and then get captured by bad guys. a commotion happen and you are told to sneak away using cover... easy enough... but at the top of the hill there is a cut scene where a bad guy pulls you out of your hiding spot and kills you... I have managed to kick then bite him... I even get the gun... but I can't seem to aim higher than his waist and the one shot I can fire off never kills him. He then struggles with you and kills you. I REALLY suck at struggling with anyone... in fact if a wolf gets me to that point now I just wait for the respawn. I can finish a wolf with quick snap shots... but this attacker seems unkillable. And the one time I made it past the struggle the game gave me like less than a second to do something... no clue what... before he kills me with my own gun.

Scarab Sages

It is actually fairly easy, if you know that you have to push the last button in that Quick-Time-Event repeatedly (I think is was the action button, after the 'left-right-left-right' button smashing(yeah, I figured that out...after reloading at least five times ;-)


Mark Moreland wrote:
I got this on release day and beat it by the end of the first weekend I had it. It's an amazing piece of work. I got 100% completion but am still missing a few of the single-player achievements, including the missable story one, so I'll likely be playing it again on easy difficulty just to pick those up and move on to multi-player play. I am totally stoked for any DLC they may have planned and for the sequel that is inevitably already in the works.

From my understanding they are going to make DLC before they even attempt a Sequel.

Assassin's Creed is apparently going to be taking a similar route with either ACIV or ACV.

Silver Crusade

I think I'm almost at the end.

I have to say, the elments a lot of folks were worried about aren't as severe as initially feared, though they are still present.

I have to admit, Lara's journey into badassedness has produced a lot of cathartic moments.

Spoiler:
Especially when she starts talking @#$% to her enemies.

This game has the most satisfying acquiring of a grenade launcher ever in a videogame.

Also, the first time they throw a quick-time event at you without a prompt is....cripes. How I managed that on the first go, I don't know, but it was close.

I think Lara's going to have PTSD by the end of this game.

I think I'm going to have some.

Spoiler:
how is that rebar wound not fatally infected by midgame after wading through all that bloodsewagegunk?

Silver Crusade

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I just finished it today (about 79% completion - there was a bit of narrative pull to completing the main story without deviating too far).

I think it's a great game, that really understands the joy of exploration and movement. I do wish they toned down on the fighting enemies but overall I never felt like an insane action hero, more John McClane on Die Hard Island.

That said I do wish this game tried to get a little trickier with the puzzles and didn't rely on a Find and shoot all X tiny targets hidden in a level for its achievements.

I was also hoping there would be one of those awesome urban legend style secret bosses. Like a Dragon somewhere on the island, but it seems that was not to be.

I guess my real complaint is that the narrative took too much space and the exploration/puzzle solving suffered for it.

Silver Crusade

DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

I just finished it today (about 79% completion - there was a bit of narrative pull to completing the main story without deviating too far).

I think it's a great game, that really understands the joy of exploration and movement. I do wish they toned down on the fighting enemies but overall I never felt like an insane action hero, more John McClane on Die Hard Island.

That said I do wish this game tried to get a little trickier with the puzzles and didn't rely on a Find and shoot all X tiny targets hidden in a level for its achievements.

Have to admit, the puzzles have been on the easy side.

Spoiler:
It's not really hard, but for some reason I'm really fond of the tomb with the bouy.

And yeah, you really don't feel like exploring every nook and cranny is appropriate until probably around the midpoint of the game. It's all "oh crap I need to get to X now!"


It's one of those games that my wife will sit next to me and watch me play all the way through (like the Uncharted series). She isn't into video games at all, and has a really short attention span.

That's how good it is.

Silver Crusade

Aranna wrote:

Ok here it is:

** spoiler omitted **

If it's the rapid-fire left-right motion on the left thumbstick and you're having a hard time keeping up with your left thumb, I believe you generally have enough time to move your right hand over to it to go wild and then move back to the buttons for the quick-time event prompt. The QTE's can be frustrating to get used to at first, since it's deceptively easy to go too fast or too slow when they let you know one is coming with that shrinking circle warning. It took me multiple times to get past that point too, and damn it was unpleasant every time.

this game hasn't demanded it yet, but whenever a game demands a button be pushed in rapid succession, I usually tense my arm to the point that my thumb starts spasming. Probably not the healthiest way to go about it...

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And just beat it.

Spoiler:
The last action you actually perform couldn't have been more perfect. :)

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Mikaze wrote:

And just beat it.

** spoiler omitted **

I couldn't agree more.

Oh, and if you by any chance played it on a PC, the tressfx is so beautiful. The hair behaves almost naturally.

Silver Crusade

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Here's my more complete thoughts on Tomb Raider in Die Hard Island.


I played a hour or so of the new Tomb Raider when I was meeting with friends and we were waiting for the rest of group to play some Game Of Thrones. Aside of having a few irritating Quick Time Events the experience was great. I haven't enjoyed game visuals so much since I played Crisis and before that Half-Life 2. Plot-wise it looked decent (so far) and shooting those little feathered balls of exp, er, chickens with a handgun was refreshing.


Game of Thrones?

You mean the ASoI&F RPG or what?


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Here's my more complete thoughts on Tomb Raider in Die Hard Island.

That was exactly the area that I reached and recovered <spoiler> for <spoiler> and got <spoiler> afterwards...


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Game of Thrones?

You mean the ASoI&F RPG or what?

Game Of Thrones.


Drejk wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Game of Thrones?

You mean the ASoI&F RPG or what?

Game Of Thrones.

Never seen that before... I like it!

Silver Crusade

DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Tomb Raider in Die Hard Island.

Man, when you just come out and say it like that it seems so obvious. ;)

some of the visuals involved in this game have been hanging heavily in my mind while playing Jade Regent, especially...

Tomb Raider spoilers, not Jade Regent:
That part where you sneak through that CROWDED temple area with tons of Stormguard marching through or standing at attention.

That was a bit of a "Holy @#$%" moment once the full scope of the scene set in.

Sovereign Court

I know you guys probably won't agree with me, but I find this game incredibly boring, and I am only halfways.

I don't like the QTEs, don't like the action, and don't like the riddles.
It is way too easy and predictable, and the plot makes no sense to me.

Maybe I'm getting old ?


Stereofm wrote:
I don't like the QTEs...

How bad were the quicktime events? Fahrenheit/Heavy Rain-bad or worse?

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Idon't know the other two games, so I can't tell, except that they were boring for me, alike almost all QTEs.

Sovereign Court

Nothing is as bad as fahrenheit QTEs were. My hands had cramps after passing that game, although they were HARD.

Nah, TR QTEs are ok, the action is good and fast paced, but there is IMO not enough tomb raiding. Although, since this is an origin story, it is fine. The game is easily the best game in 2013.


I have only heard good things about Heavy Rain...


Stereofm wrote:
Idon't know the other two games, so I can't tell, except that they were boring for me, alike almost all QTEs.

Fahrenheit's quicktime events were pretty horrible; imagine two Simon devices in the middle of the screen that wouldn't slow the f*%# down to save their lives. The game even included a video library so that the players could go back and watch their successful cinematic sequences--this felt like salt in the wound and didn't encourage multiple playthroughs.

Hama wrote:

Nothing is as bad as fahrenheit QTEs were. My hands had cramps after passing that game, although they were HARD.

Nah, TR QTEs are ok, the action is good and fast paced, but there is IMO not enough tomb raiding. Although, since this is an origin story, it is fine. The game is easily the best game in 2013.

Yeah, I remember thinking during the Oracle battle "I bet this looks amazing underneath the blinking neon interface!!"

Azaelas Fayth wrote:
I have only heard good things about Heavy Rain...

Aside from having to play through it on a PS3, my experience was surprisingly enjoyable.


I prefer PS3 over Microsoft and Nintendo Systems. Though I do like the DS Family...

Then why did you say the QTEs were bad?

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I prefer PC over a console any day...especially for this game. Tressfx looks amazing.


Meh, I my experience the PC is more trouble than it is worth.

Also I should note that while I hate the Xbox and such I do prefer their Controller Lay-Out and wish I had the spare cash for a 3PP PS3 Controller in that Lay-Out.

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IMO, nothing beats a mouse and keyboard


Doesn't work when you have a Laptop that would require 15 Steps every time you login to turn off the Touch Pad.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Then why did you say the QTEs were bad?

While Heavy Rain's quicktime nonsense wasn't as bad as Fahrenheit, it was more of the same unnecessary activity:

Interact with various objects
The Sane Way - press E or whatever button that serves as a default action key; if more than one item is on screen, press E to zoom in and E again to choose
The David Cage Way - hold down a button and make odd motions that may or may not work; every simple activity requires twice the amount of work normally needed

Personally, I hate quicktime events more complicated than the paragon/renegade options in Mass Effect.

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Doesn't work when you have a Laptop that would require 15 Steps every time you login to turn off the Touch Pad.

There's your problem right there. You want to use a laptop for gaming.


Hama wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Doesn't work when you have a Laptop that would require 15 Steps every time you login to turn off the Touch Pad.
There's your problem right there. You want to use a laptop for gaming.

Two best years of PC gaming I had were on my previous laptop. *sigh* I miss it.


@Necromancer: Are you talking the Move Edition or Normal. From what I have seen it is mostly you need simple moves of one of the Joysticks and a button press or pressing a certain button at the right time.

@Hama: Yeah... The cheapest Gaming Laptop I can get here is Southwest Missouri is over 2000 USD.

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Yup, and for say 1200$ you can get a grade A gaming desktop. Not a beast, but very very good.

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