what can a sensei give


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While I doubt that anyone would argue that a sensei could use mystic wisdom to grant abilities such as high jump or fast movement, could they grant an ally abundant step?


So here is what I have found that points to both yes and no.
From the PRD: Irrelevant portions removed.
A sensei may use his advice ability when spending points from his ki pool to activate a class ability (using the normal actions required for each) in order to have that ability affect one ally. These abilities function at the sensei's level and last 1 round.

So with these bits we can determine:
1. Advice is the same as bardic performance and follows the same guidelines. Must be intelligent and must be able to hear.
2. States that it requires him to spend his advice and the actions it takes to use the ability normally.
3. It states that it affects (Webster Dictionary: To act upon) not effects (something that is produced by an agency or cause)
4. States that it last one round. Not one round if not used

So by this yes any ability can affect a character and effect them with the ability. Such as using wholeness of body to cure them, or using abundant step as a single action to move the entire team. It does not grant them to use the abilitys such as sonic thrust or ki shout as if those were used they would AFFECT the allies not grant them its ability.

Yes by wording it sounds strange but lets look at this scenario.
Sensei affects his party with barkskin and battlemind link effectively casting a buff on them. He then proceeds to affect his allies with ki shout effectively casting ki shout on his allies.


So, by this understanding, the sensei effectively forces the effect on his allies, whether they are actually willing or not. Therefore, a sensei monk affecting his allies with dimension door forces them to a single location as though he were casting the spell and touching all targets, and his allies are not able to alter their destinations for themselves.

Is this correct?


I would assume that his allies could resist it if they wished. No different than if a cleric cast cure they could resist it if they wished. Basically if they want to go they are choosing to fail the save. And correct in the not being able to individually choose their own destination just as if using mass teleport.


Very well, wolfen. Although I was seeking a 3rd party's input for obvious reasons, I must conced the point.

I still want the rematch, tho. :)

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