Crane style magus


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I'm currently playing a bladebound/hexcrafter magus and was hoping I might get a little insight from the community on the prospect of going with crane style.

My progression would end up going something like this:

Feat BAB Feat
1 0 Arcane Strike
1
3 2 Weapon Focus (Katana)
3
5 3 Dodge
5 4 Improved Unarmed Strike
7 5 Crane Style
6
9 6 Crane Wing
7
11 8 Crane Riposte
11 Improved Critical (Katana)

I've read a few posts on various forums that go both ways, some saying the feat investment is too large and others saying it is worth it. My reasoning on wanting to go this way is mostly for the extra survivability, especially in the low to mid levels where I do not yet have the heavy armor. Even into the later levels the ability to completely counter an attack is really nice, and I would gain a "free" attack out of the deal as well so a two fold benefit.

In the above build I could swap dodge to level one and for the level 5 feat take hex strike with slumber or evil eye as my hex. Seems like it would be a nice option once I get crane riposte, though probably wouldn't see much use before then, so not sure it'd be worth it. Might be better to take it at 15.

So what are your thoughts, would it be a viable front line fighter/tanky character or would I just be over-all better off going with a few arcane pool/arcana feats?


What are your race/ stats? Personally, I think crane style rocks! I think that every class that can afford the feats should take it, or a 2 lvl dip in unarmed fighter or (preferably) MoMS. As a hexcrafter you can't afford the lvl dip, but you are right to take the feats. I would use it when you spell strike... Don't cast defensively, just accept the AoO, deflect it, riposte, and shock rock your target... But that may be wasteful... Freakin awesome, but wasteful.


Thanks for the insight! I was thinking similar myself, any time I can avoid the defensive cast is nice, and even nicer if I can use it to attack my target back. I also think it would be great for stopping a rake attack by negating 1 claw or a poison bite/sting/etc. Not to mention if I can negate a crit that's always awesome.

I am a half elf and I believe my stats are:
16
14
14
16 (15 base, +1 at level 4)
10
8

I am currently level 4.


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I tried this once. It worked very well for me.


Ravingdork wrote:
I tried this once. It worked very well for me.

I like it, 2 questions though:

1) did you use the versatile human trait to get you 3 scores of 16 or did you use a stat item? And if a stat item, did you put it in int so your starting stats gave you a 16 str and dex?

2) you took MoMS but only one style, was this because you preferred monk abilities and saves over the unarmed fighter? Or we're you planning on taking another style later if feats permitted?

Edit: NM I saw the dragon style.


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No stat items on him yet, nor did I use the +2/+2 option. Our group uses 25-point buy.

I made him a human MoMS because that's the only way to get all the Crane feats in the first two levels.


Does panther style work even if the AoO that targets you doesn't hit? Cause that would add some serious damage output to a magus with mobility that doesn't prefer to cast defensively. Crane and panther with brawling armor... May even be better than snake and crane.

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Byrdology wrote:
Does panther style work even if the AoO that targets you doesn't hit? Cause that would add some serious damage output to a magus with mobility that doesn't prefer to cast defensively. Crane and panther with brawling armor... May even be better than snake and crane.

Yes, it does. But given that the retaliation has to be an unarmed strike and Panther Style (and Panther Claw) key off wisdom it's not a good choice for a magus.


It only says you get as many free attacks as your wisdom mod. So if you can only spell strike once/ round, then once is really all you need. This is of course assuming a MoMS dip so you don't have to meet the pre reqs for the feats.

Crane is a great single style for the magus, but panther would be good for the 2 lvl monk dip.

The Exchange

Byrdology wrote:

It only says you get as many free attacks as your wisdom mod. So if you can only spell strike once/ round, then once is really all you need. This is of course assuming a MoMS dip so you don't have to meet the pre reqs for the feats.

Crane is a great single style for the magus, but panther would be good for the 2 lvl monk dip.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do here. Here is what spellstrike does:

PRD wrote:
At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell.

You make a spellstrike when you cast a spell, not when you take an attack. In other words when you use a standard action to cast a spell with a range of touch (or cast such a spell as part of the spell combat class feature).

If you have panther style and move past someone, provoking an AoO, you get to retaliate with an unarmed strike (doing 1D4+strength mod damage). You don't get to make a spellstrike.


Oh, I see... So it's not whenever you provoke an AoO, just when you move through a threatened square... Now I get it, and withdraw my previous statements.


You can hold the Touch Spells Charge and discharge it later.

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