Blackdragondisciple
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Could use some help for a Halfling Dragon Disciple build. I am helping my Nephew with this and its for Society play. Looking to build the best possible strength build we can come up with. Trying to figure out what is legal for Cross Blood, and Eldrich Heritage feat. Figure to purchase a Robes of Arcane Heritage asap in the build. Does this bump all of the blood types, or do we pick which one it bumps? Does Dragon Disciple stack with you Dragon Blood or your other Cross Blood type as well?
Thinking of something like this for build up to Dragon Disciple
1. Barbarian (Mounted Fury Archetype)
2. Fighter (Dragoon Archetype)
3. Fighter (Dragoon Archetype)
4. Sorcerer (CrossBlooded Dragon/Abyssal, or another and take Abyssal as Eldritch Heritage feat.)
5. Sorcerer
6. Sorcerer
7. Barbarian (Moment of Clarity)
8. Dragon Disciple
9. Dragon Disciple
10. Dragon Disciple
11. Dragon Disciple
12. Dragon Disciple
13. Dragon Disciple
14. Dragon Disciple
15. Dragon Disciple
16. Dragon Disciple
17. Dragon Disciple
18. ?
19. ?
20. ?
Can you take Eldritch Heritage more than once? Other Options are Shadows for cross blooded. As far as Combat Feats, I am thinking we keep it semi simple with Power Attack and Cleave, with maybe Great Cleave as well. Most likely a Falchion wielder. He is mounted, but will be a riding a Riding Dog. If its legal, will keep a few spares in case one goes down in battle. Abilities something like this.
STR 16
DEX 16
CON 14
INT 7
WIS 7
CHA 13.
Not a big caster, and easier to save against on his spells. Is not required to be a face, as we have multiple faces in party already. IF he assists that would be good enough. Does not need to be much in skills other than what he needs to be effective for himself. Also he will have Outrider racial trait for halfling.
So basically, looking to add the Strength for Dragon Disciple, the Strength eventually for Abyssal, be able to Rage. Pump Up Strength every step of the way. Outfitted with a Belt of Giant Strength. Thoughts?
Also looking at taking Black or Gold Colar Gold
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Don't forget the ranks of knowledge arcane you need to qualify for Dragon Disciple it can be east to forget to allocate them in time. Especially if you have a major INT penalty so may not have a lot of skill ranks.
Also I would probably suggest going Dragon Disciple as soon as possible - the HP and inherent stat boosts are probably worth more than what you would gain from a few more levels of pure sorcerer. And don't forget that you will get a few bonus feats from Dragon Disciple levels - plan accordingly so you don't take those feats earlier as your selection if bonus feats is quite limited.
I'd also suggest calculating your max level of spells with this build and make sure that by you are getting 4th or higher level spells you have sufficient CHA to actually cast spells of that level. (You probably don't want to rely on an item for the CHA boost needed for casting as at higher levels you will get hit with dispel magic/anti magic fields efi.
If you are planning human and going Eldritch Heritage then definitely look at the focused scholar alternative human build which gives you skill focuses at 1st, 8th and I think 16th levels. That can help immensely in qualifying for Eldritch heritages (but note also the CHA requirement for them - if you want the levels that give inherent STR boosts you will need a higher CHA.
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Blackdragondisciple
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Good point on the Charisma score for Eldritch Heritage. I think you missed the point though that he wants to be a Half-ling. I know that Half ling is not optimized for Dragon Disciple. But I think I got something that will work well enough. He basically want to be the strongest Half ling in the world. He is only 8, so should have fun with this. Here is the final build through 20th level I came up with for him. Critiques are welcome.
Half-ling with Fleet racial trait.
Str 16
Dex 15
Con 14
Int 7
Wis 7
Cha 15
Level 1. Urban Barbarian Power Attack Crowd Control Controlled Rage
Level 2. Urban Barbarian Rage Power (Witch Hunter)
Level 3. Cross blooded Sorcerer (Dragon-Green/Elemental-Earth) Cleave
Arcana +1 Damage per die energy spells matching (acid)
Arcana Convert all energy spells to acid (Earth Element)
Power Claws (Su): Starting at 1st level, you can grow claws as a free action. These claws are treated as natural weapons, allowing you to make two claw attacks as a full attack action using your full base attack bonus. Each of these attacks deals 1d4 points of damage plus your Strength modifier (1d3 if you are Small). At 5th level, these claws are considered magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming DR. At 7th level, the damage increases by one step to 1d6 points of damage (1d4 if you are Small). At 11th level, these claws deal an additional 1d6 points of damage of your energy type on a successful hit. You can use your claws for a number of rounds per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. These rounds do not need to be consecutive.
Level 4. Cross Blooded Sorcerer +1 Strength bump
Level 5. Cross Blooded Sorcerer Improved Over Run
Power Dragon Resistances (Ex): At 3rd level, you gain resist 5 against your energy type and a +1 natural armor bonus. At 9th level, your energy resistance increases to 10 and natural armor bonus increases to +2. At 15th level, your natural armor bonus increases to +4.
Level 6. Dragon Disciple Natural Armor +1
Level 7. Dragon Disciple +2 str Skill Focus Planes Improved Initiative Dragon Bite
Level 8. Dragon Disciple Breath Weapon +1 Str Bump
Level 9. Dragon Disciple Eldritch Heritage (Efreeti) Natural Armor +1
Power Fire Ray (Sp): Starting at 1st level, you can unleash an elemental ray as a standard action, targeting any foe within 30 feet as a ranged touch attack. This ray deals 1d6 points of fire damage + 1 for every two sorcerer levels you possess. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier.
Level 10. Dragon Disciple Quicken Spell Blind Sense
Level 11. Dragon Disciple Improved Eldritch Heritage(Efreeti) Efreeti Form (Su): At 9th level, you gain the ability to assume the form of an efreeti once per day. This acts like the spell giant form I, except you only use it to become an efreeti and its duration is 1 round per level. While in this form, you also gain an efreeti's heat ability.
10 Resist Acid +2 Natural Armor.
Level 12. Dragon Disciple Dragon Form +1 Natural Armor +1 Str Bump
Level 13. Dragon Disciple +2 Int Eldritch Heritage (Abyssal) Toughnss
Claws (Su): At 1st level, you can grow claws as a free action. These claws are treated as natural weapons, allowing you to make two claw attacks as a full attack action using your full base attack bonus. These attacks deal 1d4 points of damage each (1d3 if you are Small) plus your Strength modifier. At 5th level, these claws are considered magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming DR. At 7th level, the damage increases by one step to 1d6 points of damage (1d4 if you are Small). At 11th level, these claws become flaming weapons, each dealing an additional 1d6 points of fire damage on a successful hit. You can use your claws for a number of rounds per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. These rounds do not need to be consecutive.
Level 14. Dragon Disciple Wings
Level 15. Dragon Disciple Blind sense 60 ft., Dragon form (2/day) Improved Eldritch Heritage (Abyssal) Power Strength of the Abyss (Ex): At 9th level, you gain a +2 inherent bonus to your Strength. This bonus increases to +4 at 13th level, and to +6 at 17th level
Level 16. Cross Blooded Sorcerer +1 str bump
Level 17. Cross Blooded Sorcerer Extra Rage Power Overbearing Advance
Level 18. Lore Warden Fighter Greater Overrun
Level 19. Lore Warden Fighter Extra Rage Power (Overbearing Onslaught) Charge Through Combat Expertise
Level 20. Alchemist mainly to get +2 Natural Armor and +4 Str from Mutagen. will have a high enough int by then from a Manual. +1 Str Bump
End Result with a+6 Belt to strength, and +5 Manual of strength, and if time permits to drink Mutagen and change to an Efreeti form. 54 at level 20. Toss in 69,165 gp (cloud giant) Giant Hide Armor, and one can get Size Huge and have a 56 str. Though with present classes not proficient with Medium armor. Would have to go different Fighter Archetype.