Google Is Going to Fund a Moon Landing !


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Hurray... google will save us all. Atleast until their robots take over.


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I think they are the ones who pushed the meteorite at that Russian city today.

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Grand Magus wrote:

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I think they are the ones who pushed the meteorite at that Russian city today.

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Yay! for Mass Drivers!

Still I find it laughable that they don't see the Russian Meteorite as part of the Asteroid they were tracking - sure it is supposed to have come north - south (as opposed to south - north which the asteroid is doing) but that just means it came in over the USA - flipped over the north pole and down into Russia 12 hours ahead of the Asteroid.

Whats so hard to understand about that?


yellowdingo wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:

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I think they are the ones who pushed the meteorite at that Russian city today.

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Yay! for Mass Drivers!

Still I find it laughable that they don't see the Russian Meteorite as part of the Asteroid they were tracking - sure it is supposed to have come north - south (as opposed to south - north which the asteroid is doing) but that just means it came in over the USA - flipped over the north pole and down into Russia 12 hours ahead of the Asteroid.

Whats so hard to understand about that?

I don't think that works dynamically. A chunk of the asteroid that passed closer to the Earth than the main body would have an even higher velocity than the asteroid. The asteroid's velocity relative to the Earth was about 7.8 km/s I believe, which is about the velocity of something in low Earth orbit. I haven't done the math, but I suppose that a chunk that passed much closer to the Earth would have too much velocity to be tightly bent around the Earth.

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Corathon wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:

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I think they are the ones who pushed the meteorite at that Russian city today.

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Yay! for Mass Drivers!

Still I find it laughable that they don't see the Russian Meteorite as part of the Asteroid they were tracking - sure it is supposed to have come north - south (as opposed to south - north which the asteroid is doing) but that just means it came in over the USA - flipped over the north pole and down into Russia 12 hours ahead of the Asteroid.

Whats so hard to understand about that?

I don't think that works dynamically. A chunk of the asteroid that passed closer to the Earth than the main body would have an even higher velocity than the asteroid. The asteroid's velocity relative to the Earth was about 7.8 km/s I believe, which is about the velocity of something in low Earth orbit. I haven't done the math, but I suppose that a chunk that passed much closer to the Earth would have too much velocity to be tightly bent around the Earth.

Its Path was ultimately sub orbital...

As to Google - I emailed them a suggestion they sell 100 million tickets at a hundred dollars each and finance a single stage colonization vessel for the Moon. Six winners would get to go to the Moon and stay in a single stage space craft which would serve as a Lunar Habitat/Farm. Think 10 billion dollar budget is sufficient?


yellowdingo wrote:
Think 10 billion dollar budget is sufficient?

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Nope.

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Electric Wizard wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Think 10 billion dollar budget is sufficient?

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Nope.

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Costs 50 million to send a person to the space station...I think you could buy the space station for 10 billion.


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Space station? I must have misunderstood your primary goal.

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Grand Magus wrote:

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Space station? I must have misunderstood your primary goal.

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No..you were right. I suggested that the awesome budget of ten billion dollars might be sufficient to build a single stage launcher that functions as a habitat on the moon on arrival.

How much do you think we would need? Do you think we need to hold a lottery for individual colonists so that we might rake in 40 billion dollars for four colonists by selling one hundred million tickets each year to pay for the construction until we have the four colonists?


yellowdingo wrote:
Electric Wizard wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Think 10 billion dollar budget is sufficient?

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Nope.

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Costs 50 million to send a person to the space station...I think you could buy the space station for 10 billion.

Total ballpark cost-to-date for the International Space Station is in excess of $150 billion.

So, no. Wouldn't quite cut it.


yellowdingo wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:

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Space station? I must have misunderstood your primary goal.

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How much do you think we would need?

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Just to get a few humans on the moon permanently, about $10 TRILLION.

$10,000,000,000,000.34

Remember, we have to regularly send supplies up, and they literally have
to send their s##% back home. We can't blast human waste into
space -- we need to keep that in Earth's ecosphere.

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Grand Magus wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:

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Space station? I must have misunderstood your primary goal.

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How much do you think we would need?

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Just to get a few humans on the moon permanently, about $10 TRILLION.

$10,000,000,000,000.34

Remember, we have to regularly send supplies up, and they literally have
to send their s@@@ back home. We can't blast human waste into
space -- we need to keep that in Earth's ecosphere.

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Why? if they colonize the moon, their feces stays there. Its not some holy ground for NASA's secret church.

As to cost - not 10 trillion- Japanese have determined a single stage 50 passenger space craft will set them back 10+ billion? So it is an option to sell one hundred million tickets at one hundred dollars each for each year of the six years needed to raise the 60 billion needed to fund a single stage colonization vessel that will function as the very roomy habitat for six people. along with the unmanned resupply vessel a year later that will allow them to further expand their food production capacity. So why the 10 Trillion dollars to go to the Moon? because they see it as an impossible hurdle which civilians could never overcome.


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Our resources are not infinite.

I understand each of us is tiny, and we conceive of the world as being
without end. But in reality, we live on a very thin edge of "stuff".
Can't waste any of it.

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Grand Magus wrote:

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Our resources are not infinite.

I understand each of us is tiny, and we conceive of the world as being
without end. But in reality, we live on a very thin edge of "stuff".
Can't waste any of it.

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What does that have to do with not selling tickets and financing the sending of six civilians to colonize the Moon? And how would it be a waste?


Ummmm... If we assume that we are eventually going to the moon... And if we consider the moon to be a dead world... Then why-oh-why would we not use every little ounce of human waste locally to make stuff work there???


yellowdingo wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:

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Our resources are not infinite.

I understand each of us is tiny, and we conceive of the world as being
without end. But in reality, we live on a very thin edge of "stuff".
Can't waste any of it.

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What does that have to do with not selling tickets and financing the sending of six civilians to colonize the Moon? And how would it be a waste?

I think it's a reference to K-Theory: Extracted essence of the stone I awake on planet black. Freezing moon, no turning back Forbidden sorcery

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