Multiclassing with two classes both with achetypes


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ok first post ever on this site :D

I would like to find out it is possible to multiclassing with two class'es both with archetypes.

for example if chose a titan mauler barbarian and then multiclass into fighter with two-handed fighter archetype.

can it be done?


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tho'gar jenkins wrote:

ok first post ever on this site :D

I would like to find out it is possible to multiclassing with two class'es both with archetypes.

for example if chose a titan mauler barbarian and then multiclass into fighter with two-handed fighter archetype.

can it be done?

Yes, it can be done!

Further, you are actually allowed to have multiple archetypes stacked on one class, as long as the don't replace or change the same class feature.

EDIT: And welcome :)


thank so much for the welcome and the info. this makes things so much more fun when making characters.
my dm is going to be mad at me when im done lol


tho'gar jenkins wrote:

thank so much for the welcome and the info. this makes things so much more fun when making characters.

my dm is going to be mad at me when im done lol

I'd suggest using d20pfsrd.com for an quick overview of which archetypes are compatbile or not.

Grand Lodge

Why would that make your DM mad?

That's really weird.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Why would that make your DM mad?

That's really weird.

because i can see him saying you cant do that lol

but i any ways with creating my character i got to know with the change of class does that also mean the amount of skill points i get from level ups change to the new class or stay with the first class?


tho'gar jenkins wrote:


because i can see him saying you cant do that lol

but i any ways with creating my character i got to know with the change of class does that also mean the amount of skill points i get from level ups change to the new class or stay with the first class?

It changes. When you get a new level, and choose a certain class, you always get whatever that class level grants you, including amount of skill points and hp.

On top of this, remember that you also get the class skills from the new class. Having a class skill from multiple classes does not stack, but any new ones will grant you a bonus.

Grand Lodge

Why would he say you cannot follow the rules?

There is no shenanigans, no crazy combos that take advantage of loopholes, nothing "cheesy".

Does the DM have some kind of maddening anti-multiclassing houserules?

Does he know that Pathfinder makes Multiclassing hurtful, and not helpful?

That's like saying you cannot be a Human Fighter, because at level two, you will have four feats. Whoooaah, too many feats.

There has to be some kind of insane thing you are not saying, that your DM does, that would some how make this a big "no no".


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Why would he say you cannot follow the rules?

Maybe, it is simply because he thought the rules were different...


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Why would he say you cannot follow the rules?

There is no shenanigans, no crazy combos that take advantage of loopholes, nothing "cheesy".

Does the DM have some kind of maddening anti-multiclassing houserules?

Does he know that Pathfinder makes Multiclassing hurtful, and not helpful?

That's like saying you cannot be a Human Fighter, because at level two, you will have four feats. Whoooaah, too many feats.

There has to be some kind of insane thing you are not saying, that your DM does, that would some how make this a big "no no".

well hes gotten sick of me and the other players in our group making characters that break his game lol.

anyways thank you every one I've just put the last touches my new character.

hes a orc titan mauler that has a str mod of 5 and after 5 levels goes go into two-handed fighter while getting a large two handed sword and get keen, furious, impact put on it and get feats that focus on crit and power attack

its going to be fun


tho'gar jenkins wrote:


hes a orc titan mauler that has a str mod of 5 and after 5 levels goes go into two-handed fighter while getting a large two handed sword and get keen, furious, impact put on it and get feats that focus on crit and power attack

its going to be fun

The game has removed almost any means to legally wield a 2 handed weapon that is sized larger than you. Even Titan maulers can't avoid this.


MC Templar wrote:
tho'gar jenkins wrote:


hes a orc titan mauler that has a str mod of 5 and after 5 levels goes go into two-handed fighter while getting a large two handed sword and get keen, furious, impact put on it and get feats that focus on crit and power attack

its going to be fun

The game has removed almost any means to legally wield a 2 handed weapon that is sized larger than you. Even Titan maulers can't avoid this.

what do you mean?

i know normaly when you use a weapon one size larger then you you take a -4 to rolls.

but titan mauler has the the power:
Massive Weapons (Ex)

At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes. The attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0).
This ability replaces trap sense.


I'd suggest you start with this thread

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n3tb?Titan-Mauler-what-can-and-cant-it-wield

and review the oversized weapon rules.

Essentially, all Massive Weapons does is rules the penalties in the oversized weapon rules, it doesn't allow you to ignore the limitations in that section.


Massive Weapons does not work the way seems it works. yes it reduces the penalties, BUT it still can not go above the "handedness" rule. The "Handedness" rule is simply, a Medium char can use a light, one handed or 2 handed weaponn designed for a medium char. If you go down one size category for the wielder, so does the "handedness". same if You go up in size for the wielder.
F. ex.
medium Light = a small one handed.
Large one handed = medium 2 handed.
large light = small 2 handed.
large 2 handed = to big for mediums and small.
small light = to small for medium and large chars.

the Titan mauler could use a Dagger made for a Huge creature, and it would be a 2 handed weapon for him. (it would still be a 2d6 dmg weapon i think. but with penalties for wrong size)

For a better explanation, see this thread.

It has the Titan Mauler archetype's designers INTENDED vision for it.

Meh, to slow a poster i am.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Why would he say you cannot follow the rules?

There is no shenanigans, no crazy combos that take advantage of loopholes, nothing "cheesy".

Does the DM have some kind of maddening anti-multiclassing houserules?

Does he know that Pathfinder makes Multiclassing hurtful, and not helpful?

That's like saying you cannot be a Human Fighter, because at level two, you will have four feats. Whoooaah, too many feats.

There has to be some kind of insane thing you are not saying, that your DM does, that would some how make this a big "no no".

Man, calm down.

Grand Lodge

Frustration from previous thread. Sorry.

By the way, to the OP: You need to read the Titan Mauler Errata.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Frustration from previous thread. Sorry.

By the way, to the OP: You need to read the Titan Mauler Errata.

ya ive read the errata and i know i would get a -4 to attack rolls when useing a over sized weapon, but still it can be done.

as far as one handing a two handed, i woudent do that with the oversized weapon.

Scarab Sages

tho'gar jenkins wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:

Frustration from previous thread. Sorry.

By the way, to the OP: You need to read the Titan Mauler Errata.

ya ive read the errata and i know i would get a -4 to attack rolls when useing a over sized weapon, but still it can be done.

as far as one handing a two handed, i woudent do that with the oversized weapon.

The largest weapon you can wield via just the Titan Mauler is a large one-handed weapon, such as a Large Bastard Sword. It won't allow you to wield a large Greatsword for example, since that exceeds the "handedness" available to a medium character.


ok the weapon i should go with is a bastard sword, but don't i need some sort of proficiency to use it right? as for its size, the size for medium character is medium right?


Correct, to use a normal bastard sword one handed requires an exotic weapon prof.

P.S. Otherwise it is treated as a two handed weapon making the large version impossible to be wielded.

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