?PFS? Orcale's Legalistic curse + combat


Rules Questions


Part of the Legalistic curse”

“At 5th level, you gain a +3 competence bonus on Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Sense Motive check while talking to an individual one-on-one.”

Can/could/would/will/how would that interact with something like say… the Enforcer feat?

(Enforcer basically allows a free Intimidate (Demoralize) check against a target that I did non-lethal damage to)

Curveball, what if I went dual cursed and took the Tongues curse and started screaming in a language no one understood? Would that affect how it worked?


If you are soloing the enemy, you would get the +3 on your intimidate checks. But assumedly most of your fights will have your party in the room, so you won't benefit from this ability on those checks.

You can still intimidate someone even if you don't share a language, so taking the Tongues curse wouldn't hurt your demoralize checks.


However, I seem to recall that most language-dependent effects incur a -4 penalty if the target is unable to understand the speaker. Not entirely sure if it is called out in this instance for intimidation checks, but it might come into effect if the DM decides your intimidate is language-dependent.


RumpinRufus wrote:

If you are soloing the enemy, you would get the +3 on your intimidate checks. But assumedly most of your fights will have your party in the room, so you won't benefit from this ability on those checks.

You can still intimidate someone even if you don't share a language, so taking the Tongues curse wouldn't hurt your demoralize checks.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I do have one question though. Why would it matter if other people are in the room?

I've personally have had one-on-one conversations with other people in a room before so I'm curious as to why this stops the... "combo."

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