Superior & Master Grappler Special Abilities


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The lesser & greater host devils from Princes of Darkness: Book of the Damned, Vol. 1 have the special abilites of Superior & Master Grappler, respectively.

Superior Grappler (Ex) A gaav can wield a weapon and still make grapple checks. If it’s not wielding a weapon, a gaav gains a +4 bonus on grapple checks. Each gaav can lift up to 50 pounds and still fly without being impeded.

Master Grappler (Ex) A magaav can wield a weapon and still make grapple checks. If it’s not wielding a weapon, a magaav gains a
+4 bonus on grapple checks.

While this seems to give them the ability to attack with their weapon and make a grapple attack as part of a full attack action, they still make themselves vulnerable to an attack of opportunity when the grapple, correct?

That seems right to me, but it just seems silly to give them that power without the benefit of the Improved Grappler feat.


What suggests it gives them the ability to attack with their weapon and make a grapple maneuver as part of a full attack action? Wielding a weapon just means holding it in a way it could be used.

Nothing in that descriptions suggest that to me. In fact, it looks fairly questionably written as *anyone* can make grapple checks while wielding a weapon at -4.

Quote:
Humanoid creatures without two free hands attempting to grapple a foe take a –4 penalty on the combat maneuver roll. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Grapple

The only effect, as written, is that they get a +4 bonus per ability (which apparently stacks as a typeless bonus) if they aren't wielding weapons. Great for grapplers to be sure.

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