Vishkanya Toxic ability and Natural weapons


Rules Questions


2 questions both working around the vishkanya and natural weapons.

1) Can it be done? Can a Vishkanya poison their natural weapons prior to attacking with them?

Toxic Ability:
A number of times per day equal to his Constitution modifier (minimum 1/day), a vishkanya can envenom a weapon that he wields with his toxic saliva or blood (using blood requires the vishkanya to be injured when he uses this ability). Applying venom in this way is a swift action. Vishkanya Venom: Injury; save Fort DC 10 + 1/2 the vishkanya's Hit Dice + the vishkanya's Constitution modifier; frequency 1/round for 6 rounds; effect 1d2 Dex; cure 1 save.

2) I kind of assume this one is a no... but i'm curious what other people think.

Can a Vishkanya Summoner (synthesist) poison the eidolon's natural weapons?

Fused Eidolon:
A synthesist summons the essence of a powerful outsider to meld with his own being. The synthesist wears the eidolon like translucent, living armor. The eidolon mimics all of the synthesist’s movements, and the synthesist perceives through the eidolon’s senses and speaks through its voice, as the two are now one creature.

While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist uses the eidolon’s physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution), but retains his own mental ability scores (Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma). The synthesist gains the eidolon’s hit points as temporary hit points. When these hit points reach 0, the eidolon is killed and sent back to its home plane. The synthesist uses the eidolon’s base attack bonus, and gains the eidolon’s armor and natural armor bonuses and modifiers to ability scores. The synthesist also gains access to the eidolon’s special abilities and the eidolon’s evolutions. The synthesist is still limited to the eidolon’s maximum number of natural attacks. The eidolon has no skills or feats of its own. The eidolon must be at least the same size as the synthesist. The eidolon must have limbs for the synthesist to cast spells with somatic components. The eidolon’s temporary hit points can be restored with the rejuvenate eidolon spell.
While fused, the synthesist loses the benefits of his armor. He counts as both his original type and as an outsider for any effect related to type, whichever is worse for the synthesist. Spells such as banishment or dismissal work normally on the eidolon, but the synthesist is unaffected. Neither the synthesist nor his eidolon can be targeted separately, as they are fused into one creature. The synthesist and eidolon cannot take separate actions. While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist can use all of his own abilities and gear, except for his armor. In all other cases, this ability functions as the summoner’s normal eidolon ability (for example, the synthesist cannot use his summon monster ability while the eidolon is present).

I kind of think it could work because of the bolded text...

but at the same time, I also think it couldn't work, because the Summoner isn't wielding the Eidolon's natural attacks.

Thoughts?


anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Scarab Sages

There doesn't appear to be any reason the Vishkanya couldn't poison his own natural weapons, or by extension, those granted to him via being bonded with his Eidolon as a synthesist.
However, he'd still be limited to envenoming one weapon per round as a swift action.


Thanks for getting back to me...

I think I came to that same conclusion... but I just got confused because I keep getting this odd image of an eidolon making out with it's chest... in order for the vishkanya to get it's saliva on the eidolon's bite attack...

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